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American Alligator vs Komodo Dragon

 

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A great suggestion from many readers, this fight pits two of the coolest animals on Earth in battle.

The American alligator normally grows up to 12-15 ft and weigh over 1000 lbs. The Alligator has been known to take down prey as large as a Black Bear. It has the strongest bite force of any animal on Earth and is the apex predator of its habitat.

The biggest Komodo Dragons can grow up to 12 ft and weigh in at 250 lbs. Found only in remote islands of Indonesia, the dragon takes down prey up to 10 times its size, including water buffalo. The Komodo Dragon has no fear of any animal and its saliva contains a deadly mix of bacteria.

This animal fight might well come down to who gets the first bite. If the gator were able to get a clean shot at the dragon, it could snap it in half. However, it says here that the Komodo Dragon will get the first bite 9 out of 10 times, on land or in the water, letting its "venom" kill the alligator and then devouring every bit of it.

Komodo Dragon Wins

Comments

Question: how long does it take for that bacteria to kill the aligator assuming it was bitten by the Komodo? 
 
I just feel like the Komodo is agil enough to avoid a big bite from the alligator. I gotta go Komodo!!!
Posted @ Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:46 AM by Scot
There's one problem, tough alligator skin and armored back. The Komodo could bite but has only one shot and if it finds the skin too tough to puncture or a bony plate, goodnight.  
 
Also, Alligator blood has strong antibiotic proteins that are currently being tested to fight superbugs in humans. 
 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080407074556.htm 
 
Battle Alligator has only one winner.
Posted @ Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:44 PM by Danger Doug
I think the Dragon's teeth (up to one inch long and serrated like a buzz saw) will be able to get through.
Posted @ Monday, March 30, 2009 8:37 PM by Al
the alligator has a thick armored body, and it is one of the bone crushing bite in the animal kingdom, and its tail can use it as a weapon 
the komodo is agile and faster than the gator, sharp claws can use it as a weapon, and it has a deadly saliva that contains bacteria. 
I think the komodo would win
Posted @ Monday, March 30, 2009 10:17 PM by CJ
Antibacterial blood beats bacterial venom every time. Don't get it twisted.
Posted @ Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:45 AM by Jerry
Antibacterial blood beats bacterial venom like rednecks beat kids.
Posted @ Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:46 AM by Qualude
Komodo dragons rule
Posted @ Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:36 PM by Bobcat
lol ur wrong 
aligator blood can kill a lot of bacteria so the komodos bite will not take harm
Posted @ Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:24 PM by Adrian
don't tolerate one of them..just tolerate both of them..because they are animals too..they didn't want a fight!! but humans are making plans for them to fight with each other!! try to save them from mean people who doesn't care for animals only for money and their selves..we should obey God...because i know god is sayin we should take care of the animals like taking care of ourselves!! im just concerned
Posted @ Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:06 AM by sophie
Fuck you.
Posted @ Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:37 AM by The Joker
Shut up you idiot, shes right.
Posted @ Friday, April 10, 2009 9:24 AM by Bobcat
oh oyu shutup yeah she is right but i have to admait that in a way both of them could win the crocodle would only win by snappin it in half and it isnt harmed by most bacteria but .......... the komodo is quick moving and has 7 soureces of bacteria on its teeth and on source can affect the aligator ones bitten and the komodo will run awayuntil the aligator is dead and eat it but i think the komodo would win
Posted @ Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:26 PM by zack
There both pretty much the same in strength, but alligators are too fat and slow.
Posted @ Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:32 PM by Bobcat
I had no idea that those komodo dragons were so tough! I knew their saliva was poisonous, but a water buffalo! Whoa! remind me never to go there.
Posted @ Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:16 PM by Jennifer Snyder
I think th komodo's saliva would have no effect since the alligator whole top half of its body is covered in 3-4 inch body armour and the komodo is not strong enough to flip over an 1000kg alligator
Posted @ Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:09 PM by Bay
true to tat!!! 
 
Posted @ Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:53 AM by Titman
suck a fatty(:
Posted @ Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:27 PM by johnny faceman
The komodo would definitely get pwned....all it takes is one clean shot by the alligator and the fights over. 
 
The alligator might die later on though from the bacteria though.
Posted @ Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:07 AM by Scott
fuck off nimbnuts!!! 
 
Posted @ Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:32 AM by bay
If the Komodo Dragon sees the Alligator blast out of the water towards him, he's gonna run! Seriously, I'm going with the Alligator.
Posted @ Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:23 PM by Kenny
I would have to bet on the alligator. There have been a lot of articles recently posted on the komodo's bite. The Komodo has a very weak bite, perhaps no stronger than a housecat. The key to the Komodo's bit is it's re-curved, razor-sharp teeth. It easily pierces the skin and then as it pulls it's head back, the teeth penetrate deeply and pull away flesh. It was previously thought that the deadly cocktail of bacteria in the Komodo's mouth was what caused death. Any wound from a Komodo is likely to cause toxic shock within houra and become gangrenous. The wounded animal usually survives the initial bite, only to become overcome by the infection within a matter of hours so that the dragon can track him down and devour it's prey at it's leisure. There is more to it than that though. It was recently found by biologists in Australia that it actually has venom glands in the back of it's mouth that prevent the blood from clotting and also cause the animal to go into shock. In spite of the deadly Komodo's bite, I would have to put my money on the Alligator and her is why: 
 
First of all, alligator's, while they may look sluggish, are capable of moving with lightning speed, launching up to half of their body completely out of the water to make a strike. They can also run pretty fast for short distances.  
 
When it comes to strength, alligators are incredibly powerful, not just in terms of their bite strength either. I haven't even mentioned the incredible bite force. I've seen a small (4 foot) alligator rip the plastic bumper off a a car in one bite. If an adult alligator got hold of even the biggest Komodo dragon Komodo, it would do it's deathroll. This is enough to crush bones, tear tendons and ligaments, and dismember limbs in an instant. Supposing the Komodo did actually get a bite on the Gator, It's teeth may not be able to deeply penetrate the tough skin and even if it did, because of the Alligators slow metabolism, the venom may not have much of an affect. As for the deadly cocktail of bacteria, I seriously doubt it would have any effect on the alligator. I've seen alligators that have survived horrific wounds such and survived. Alligator parks always have a few animals with limbs missing and in some cases their tails are almost completely bitten off. Because of their environment in swamps, their immune system has evolved to such an extent that they're virtually immune to infection and apparently, if they can survive the loss of a limb, they don't bleed to death very easily either. My money is on the gator, definitely. 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:47 AM by Kirk Nance
of course, the alligator would own the komodo, the lizard's teeth cannot penetrate the gator's armor, and even if they do so, crocodilians have incredibly strong immune sistem, they're immune to most species of bacteria.
Posted @ Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:10 AM by Gianmario
You're crazy to pick a komo dragon here. Sure - their bite kills just about anything after a few days. Days, that is. I think you really should check with the wildlife experts on this one, I mean come on. 
 
The komodo dragon is a very clumsy animal, and apart from its septic bite is probably one of the least dangerous carnivores for its size. Ever heard of island gigantism? A male adult human with a knife would stand a reasonable chance against this animal.
Posted @ Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:33 AM by Wildlife lover
Alligators can sprint up to 15 mph (everglades guy told me on a boat tour). This perceived "quickness" advantage to the komodo is greatly lessened. This, mixed with alligator anti-bacterial blood, superior brute strength/size, and most powerful bite on the planet result in an easy win for the alligator.
Posted @ Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:42 AM by chicken quesadilla
Uhh, I'm pretty sure the gator would win here, folks. He's the advantage of weight, better adapted for water, strongest bite pound for pound in the animal kingdom and natural body armour, pretty much. Score 1 for Big Al.
Posted @ Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:54 PM by Dude
komodo dragons dont have venom... there bites kill because of toxic bacteria that live in there mouth it causes slow infections in mammmals gators arnt mammals
Posted @ Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:51 PM by mitchell
lol at idiots aligators r not vicious killing machines r u thinking of a salt water crocodile a thousand pounds wahahahahah salt water crocodile is the largest reptile on earth and it only gets that wieght u fools the komodo dragon all the way its a monitor lizrd highly agressive and when they bite they shake around 2 its how they eat deadly snakes. there skin though not plated scale is very loose like baggy skin and can take a deal of damage. there claws laserate. and they r canabalistc on them selfs and other reptiles.. komodo dragon for the win
Posted @ Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:58 AM by billy bob joe
Billy Bob Joe, you panzy ass redneck, you don't know shit!! 
 
 
 
Alligators can get up to 4000 pounds and Komodo Dragons can't kill anything! They're weak and useless in a fight, they're so scared of Water Buffaloes that they sneak up on them and bite and haul ass, then when their prey dies, they follow the trail and eat it! What pussies they are!!
Posted @ Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM by Michael
I meant to say Saltwater Crocodiles can get up to 4000 pounds alligators can only top 1000 punds.
Posted @ Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:32 PM by Michael
lol michael u idiot no salt water crocodile gets 4 tonnes lol thats bigger then 2 great whites max length for a salt water croc is 7 metres an 1 tonne in wieght thats it ur thinking of godzilla next of read what was stated a gators biggest prey is a black bear fucking big woop a water buffalo is much larger then a black bear go back to heaven micheal gods waiting
Posted @ Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:39 AM by billy bob joe
and a gator dosent sneak around in water like a panzy and kill prey like a wuss with a lunge when they cant b seen????? fucking irony. i think u should stfu and say touche
Posted @ Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:42 AM by billy bob joe
LOL!!!!! 
 
Both of yall are retarded, the Saltwater Crocodile can't get up to 4000 lbs, a big one weighs half as much!! lol 
 
That's how stupid michael is. 
 
 
 
And, Billy Bob Joe, 1 ton = 2000 lbs. You don't seem to understand that, so..now you know! lol
Posted @ Friday, July 10, 2009 2:32 AM by Kenny
I've noticed that Billy Bob Thornton put down 1 tonne for the Saltwater Crocodile, even that's 2,200 lbs! 
 
 
 
An American Alligator CAN weigh up to 900 or 1000 lbs, trust me, i've met one! 
 
 
 
A komodo dragon cannot take down an alligator, you have to be a moron to think otherwise! 
 
 
 
And don't call these animals cowards Michael and Billy Bob Thornton, because that just tells us that both of you are! 
 
 
 
Komodo Dragons are not going to waste their time chasing down a fucking deer, so that's why they sneak up on them Michael! 
 
 
 
And alligators only have a burst of energy, they're not going to chase an animal down miles away from their natural habitat, that's completely stupid, Billy Bob! 
 
 
 
Both of these animals tire easily. But when it comes down to combat, the alligator will fucking MURDER the dragon!!!! Just because they're scared of people doesn't make them cowards, it makes them smart!
Posted @ Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:22 AM by Jason Henson
Alligator would win! I don't know why some of you think the alligator is so slow-I live where they do, and they are very fast-I can tell you that!! They are like aquatic battle-tanks!
Posted @ Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:21 PM by Attila
Actually, the biggest croc(diff than alligator) is more than 2000 lbs, his name is Gustav and he killed over 300 people in africa(burundi)and weighs approx.1.3 tons to learn more about this nile croc: "Capturing the Killer Croc"on dvd, you can find it on amazon.com There have been larger ones than that 7 meters(Gustav is appr 23 ft long.
Posted @ Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 PM by Attila
the komodo would kill the gater with 1 bite!
Posted @ Monday, August 10, 2009 2:29 PM by Savannah
LOLOLOL!!! 
 
 
 
I'm gonna make fun of every fucking body on here!! 
 
 
 
Some idiot on here put down that Crocodiles weighed 4000 pounds, The biggest croc ever is the Saltwater Crocodile and they've reached 3000 lbs, and measured 23 feet in length, NOTHING to fuck around with!! 
 
 
 
Komodo Dragons can't kill a fucking gator with one bite either!! The best thing that you could do is go back to school or something!! 
 
 
 
The gator would take the komodo and rip it to pieces with the death roll they do all the time! 
 
 
 
I'd bet a fair amount of $$$ on the Alligator.
Posted @ Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:11 AM by Frankie
what about a lucky bite? anything dies from loss of blood to the jugular lol. i did underestermate the alligator and done more research. gator would more then likely win. still a komodo dragon is no push over and a tonne for a saltwater croc is still very rare largest caught one in ausstralia was just over 5 metres and was called sweet tooth. its illegal to kill any reptile in australia unlike america so a 1000lbs gator would b a rare one too i imagine. as u do hunt them yes?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:43 AM by billy bob joe
also unless ur names doctor phil dont call any one retarded or stupid on the internet thats kinda lame i have a p.h.d is awesomeness 
 
^_^
Posted @ Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:46 AM by billy bob joe
and im an aussie so i dont go the 2.2 lbs to a killong thing i just go the simple 2lbs=killo as its easyer to estimate a size largest salt croc i have seen was 4 metres long and just over 500 killos name was merf and likes at currumbin bird sanctury. that is y im finding it hard for an aligator to b so large as far as im aware of the largest crocodilians go saltwater then nile then aligator though the ghaveral is longer then the aligator just not as heavy 
 
Posted @ Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:03 AM by billy bob joe
also the weight is wrong for the komodo dragon they can get 150 kgs in wieght 
 
Posted @ Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:05 AM by billy bob joe
and i dont recomend facing a komodo dragon with a knife lol id like to c u do that to a lace monitor let alone a komodo dragon
Posted @ Monday, August 24, 2009 4:53 AM by billy bob joe
The fight is a draw, the dragon would get to bite the gator but remember this saliva is the same saliva that can take days to kill a 1000 pound water buffalo the gator weights 800 lbs. The gator would rip the dragon apart before the saliva can kill it so in the end both reptiles are died. 
 
But mostly I go for the gator, it as a crushing bite force that only crocs can beat.
Posted @ Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:13 PM by Zeroman
Depends on first bite. If the Komodo got first bite, it may still lose but win in a way. The bacteria could kill the alligator as well. I think that the alligator would probably win.
Posted @ Monday, September 14, 2009 6:11 PM by Dark_Wolfxoxo
In water, surely the alligator would just drown the kimodo? or am i wrong?
Posted @ Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:59 AM by Manu9999
well well well a fight set in this situation is easy the komdo gets its bateria from dead animals and the gator eats the same damn thing it dosent matter who gets whoo the komodos bateria even if it effected the gator which doubt it it wont take the gator down as soon as it gets bit come on these things get bit by deadly snkaes and dont die the gator gets bit by a komodo the gator will bite back crushing the dragon and death rolling night night dragon think about it and if the dragon gets pulled in the water well that it any way cause theres going to be more than one gator i have worked at a zoo and worked with both animals and seen things with gators that makes them awsome
Posted @ Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:11 PM by lee
This is another stupid battle. Another unfair one, like the “Bear vs. Gorilla” (victor is always bear) one, or the “Jaguar vs. Leopard” (victor is jaguar) one Komodo dragons reach a MAXIMUM of 10 feet long, where there have been records of American alligators reaching lengths of 16ft long. American alligators are more heavily built and have MUCH stronger jaws. Komodos are poor fighters and rely on their deadly bacteria infested bite to kill their prey. Alligators have jaws that can exert pressure of 2000-2500PSI. Komodos don;t have that strong of jaws. Alligators have thick armor plating, which could prevent the Komodo from giving the alligator its "famous bite". The only way the Komodo could kill the gator, is if it bit its underbelly and that will still take days for the gator to succumb to the disease. Much more time given than for a fully grown fully fledged gator to take out a Komodo dragon. A sixteen foot long gator can weigh 1,200 pounds, while a ten food dragon could only weigh at a maximum of 350-400 pounds, when fully gorged with food. Gators have been known to be apex predators of their range, having been recorded to kill black bears and Florida panthers within their range. A Komodo could succumb to a black bear with ease. Both gators and Komodos are similar in body plan, however the gator is stronger. I can't believe how retarded these fights are becoming. Eventually it will be “Lion vs. Housecat” or “Worm vs. Blue jay”.
Posted @ Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:09 AM by MrAlien
alligators will kick the komodo ass
Posted @ Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:19 AM by kris
everyone is commenting.by the way what is the areana land/water.if land dragon will bite and try to escape but gator if bite while getting a bite will win but if dragon escapes than no one will win.in water gator is fast and will win .overall gator may win but dragon never.
Posted @ Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:39 AM by arpan sarma
Both these creatures are vicious, strong, and fast, but the komodos aren't equipped for taking down gators, and the gator's antibacterial blood would would stop any bacteria. The komodo could still wound the gator well with its teeth, but by the time it could rip far enough into the gator for a kill, it would already be sliced up by the gator's jaws.
Posted @ Sunday, November 01, 2009 5:21 PM by Luke Beall
I agree that this is not a fair fight. I don't think the komodo dragon would even think of trying to attack an alligator. I think a more interesting opponent for the alligator would be an anaconda. Now, that would be a fight to the finish, maybe resulting in the death of both alligator and anaconda. I think this even happened in real life in the Everglades where they found the dead snake trying to swallow the dead alligator.
Posted @ Monday, November 23, 2009 7:14 PM by Jeremy
Update: I was wrong, it wasn't an anaconda. It was a burmese python. It's body exploded after it tried swallowing a six-foot alligator.  
 
Read all about it: http://news.mongabay.com/2005/1005-gator.html
Posted @ Monday, November 23, 2009 11:41 PM by Jeremy
This should be more about which animal will die first. Its not like the Saliva of the Komodo kills you on the spot. Damn why are the uploads so fucking stupid? I think at the end 5/10 times both animals will end up dying but most of the time the Komodo will end up dying first. So I say 7/10 times the Alligator will win. Since it is longer, much more powerful, thicker skin, better swimmer, taller legs which make it stand higher.
Posted @ Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:47 PM by Jesse "LULZ" James
The alligator is bigger and more powerful. The dragon does not have venom. It has an infectuous bite. However, alligators and crocodiles are immune to infection. Alligator eats the Komodo dragon. The End.
Posted @ Monday, December 14, 2009 1:31 PM by Toby Ross
This is supposed to be about alligator vs dragon. However, since it was brought up. The python knows what it can and cannot swallow. The python swallowed a live alligator. The big snake would have been alright, if left alone to digest the gator. However, another alligator bit into the side of the python, causing the python to explode, releasing the now dead alligator. This was on the follow-up news.
Posted @ Monday, December 14, 2009 1:38 PM by Toby Ross
Warning to all newcomers! I no longer participate here because I have recently learned that this is a hot hangout for gay teenagers.
Posted @ Monday, December 28, 2009 5:25 PM by Toby Ross
First of all, the webmaster isn't forcing these animals to fight; it's hypothetical, and because one needs to understand the forces involved, quite educational. IMO, of course. 
 
Next, it can take days for Komodo venom (or bacteria) to work. So even if the dragon got first (and second) bite, with the alligator getting thirds, the Komodo would be killed. However, supposedly, 48 hours later, it'd have its revenge as the gator succumbed and, according to the info I've read, be devoured by other hungry Komodo Dragons. 
 
PS Someone called gators "aquatic battle tanks" and I think that's a great description!
Posted @ Friday, January 01, 2010 12:36 PM by Mark in Iowa
The Komodo dragon does not have venom. It is bacteria. The prey animal dies from infection. However, alligators and crocodiles are immune to infection. The dragon's bite will have no effect on the alligator.
Posted @ Friday, January 01, 2010 12:47 PM by Toby Ross
a komdo dragon could inject some mean poisnee my sister has ben bitten by one and she died so go komdo.
Posted @ Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:42 PM by cam
no animals fight
Posted @ Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:46 PM by nick
The alligator wins. His bite is more powerful, and the infectious bite of the dragon does him no harm.
Posted @ Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:26 AM by Toby Ross
dragon wins lol are u serouis gator is too big weighing in like 1000 lbs dragon only like 200 lbs jaws are to long and powerful with the strongest bite on the entire earth the gator will eat the dragon simple facts only thing dragon has is its spitt witch like venom with so much bactireia but other than than gator wins who ever chooses the winner on this website is a dumbass
Posted @ Monday, January 25, 2010 1:58 PM by styulz
You're kidding me, right?! Dragons do NOT have "venom", they rather have a cocktail of bacteria similar to a humans bite which is commonly known to be just as deadly. This in no way harms a gator, and the gator's jaw is more than a match for the dragon.  
 
Gator wins!
Posted @ Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:07 AM by ATTILA
@ATTILA you must not know about komodo dragons i said there spit is considerd a veom becus it has som much bactirea look it up
Posted @ Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:16 AM by stuylz
Alligator wins, its 5x as heavy and alot better armed, and a bite of 2000 psi the dragon would be finished. The dragons "venom" or bacteria will have little affect on the gator
Posted @ Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:41 PM by mr animalia
wow think gator not croc it would not matter anyways the gator is still going to be smaller most of the time anyhow a croc would be more likly to run into a dragon and for info the nasty saliva of the dragon is still considered venom think
Posted @ Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:44 AM by
Their saliva IS NOT VENOM. Venom is proteins. Bacteria are actual organisms, that follow all 7 processes of life. Komodo dragons do have venom, like some other lizards do, BUT IT IS NOT FATAL, and without the bacteria, the Komodo's venom cannot do anything to a large animal. Most crocodilians have been thought to be immune to most pathogens (parasitic bacteria, protists, and fungi), even non-living ones like viruses (viruses are none-living things, for people who didn’t know). The armor plating is enough to help protect the alligator from the venom. The average alligator male is about 12 feet long. The average komodo is about 8 feet long. And even at the same length, the gator is stronger. They are more compactly built to fight. Komodos wait around a dying buffalo FOR DAYS, until the pathogen bacteria, from their saliva, kills the animal. They don’t bring the actual buffalo down with physical force. They just give the buffalo one good bite, and wait for it to die, which takes days. Again; alligators are apex predators of their range. Known to kill ADULT black bears and Florida panthers. They do this with PHYSICAL force.  
 
 
 
 
 
Average Komodo Male:  
 
Weight- 130-180lbs  
 
Length- 7-8.5 feet 
 
 
 
Average Komodo Female:  
 
Weight- 80-120lbs 
 
Length- 6-7 feet 
 
 
 
Largest Komodo Specimen:  
 
Weight- 365lbs 
 
Length- 10.25 feet 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Average American Alligator Male: 
 
Weight- 500- 850lbs 
 
Length- 10-13.5 feet 
 
 
 
Average American Alligator Female: 
 
Weight- 225- 450lbs 
 
Length- 7.5-9 feet 
 
 
 
Largest American Alligator Specimen: 
 
Weight- Unknown 
 
Length- 17.5 feet (unknown if the rumor of the 19 foot long gator is true)
Posted @ Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:39 AM by MrAlien123456
I live in Florida. Yes, that 19 foot alligator is still living. But, like Andrea the Giant, this gator is a rare individual. They normally grow to about 13 feet long if not killed by an ignorant human. Like all crocodilians, alligators are immune to infection. If one gator bites the leg off of another, even in nasty swamp water, the wound will heal without any infection.
Posted @ Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:44 AM by Toby Ross
I wish I could get a gator as a "guard dog". :P Nah, but really, though. To keep such an animal happy every week, you're going to have to give it one or two deer carcasses per week, to keep it satisfied........ My goal "exotic" pet is the Silver fox, considered that they are being sold in the U.S. as we speak, for $5,700, vaccinated and neutered, and can be considered domestic, since they now actually bark like dogs, wag their tails when they’re happy, can use litter boxes, come in many different color variations, some have floppy ears, and some have blue eyes. Kind of rare, but ATM, there's about 100 males presently available for purchase.
Posted @ Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:15 PM by MrAlien123456
Woops my bad; the 100 males was supposed to be 10, but I put an extra one there, on accident.
Posted @ Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:28 PM by MrAlien123456
Gator kills with deathroll for sures., but Komodo kills if his bateria bite manages to get through. 
 
Komodos are also very good swimmers. 
But its only chance is its bacteria. 
 
Also,... 
Mr.Alien, that's fuckin terrible dude.. don't make a fox your pet.. 
I mean come on man,, 
Jesus christ, do we have to domesticate every fucking form of life on the planet??..Just so you can hug and pet it all day.. 
shit,. just leave the wild to the wild.
Posted @ Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:05 AM by Disgusted By You
Hey mate, can you please look at the silver fox website listed below. This is 50 YEARS of domestication from the red fox. The yare pretty much as domesticated as ferrets. This proves how fast we could've domesticated dogs from wolves. You can easily call them a new subspecies of red fox, because of this domestication, the same way you call the domestic dog “Canis lupus familiaris“, you can call this new fox subspecies “Vulpes vulpes domesticus“. 
 
 
 
Silver fox site: http://sibfox.com/ 
 
 
 
And even if the Komodo does manage to get the bite on the gator, it still would be most likely be immune to the pathogens in the saliva. Even if the alligator isn't immune to such a bacteria, it would take days for the bacteria to kill the gator. Much more than the amount of time needed for a gator to make mincemeat of a Komodo dragon.  
 
 
 
And as long as animals are sociable with humans IT'S FINE to domesticate them. The foxes domesticated on this site were selectively bred from the nicest red foxes. This breeding project took place in Russia for more than 50 years; and now, this project is associated with the U.S. and now, these foxes are available for purchase in the U.S.; vaccinated, neutered/spayed, and ready to find a new home. This breeding project was proof that dogs could’ve been domesticated from wolves in a much shorter time-lapse period. These foxes are now affectionate and because of selective breeding, they are used to humans, and come in beautiful color varieties. As long as an animal is willing to participate, in the association with humans, I have no negative thoughts against the practice (as long it‘s for positive purposes). And remember, these foxes are red foxes, and now, they come in black and white, and have blue eyes, instead of yellow ones. They are a completely new subspecies. 
 
Posted @ Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:22 AM by MrAlien123456
Alligator hands down. The Komodo is a fearsome predator to be sure, but you guys are glorifying it too much. Alligator by virtue of its overwhelming size and strength advantage. 
 
 
 
Posted @ Tuesday, February 09, 2010 6:58 PM by rufus
Yo Mr.Alien! YOur sick man. I don't care how right you think it is to domesticate animals that were meant to be wild in the first place, you gotta problem if you absolutely need a "beautiful" fox to hug and kiss all day long..
Posted @ Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:24 AM by ralph
yeah man, I agree with ralph, your taking the whole fox pet thing too far. Chill out buddy. 
Just cause somebody spent 50 years domesticating them doesn't mean the foxes asked to be domesticated. 
 
You have no right to put a claim to an animal's life. 
sick.
Posted @ Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:28 AM by Casey Jones
Oh really? Before you say ANYTHING about domesticating an animal, do YOU two support the unlimited amount of children a human is allowed to have per household? Because overpopulation is certainly worse than domesticating an animal of any species. Do you eat meat? Because I have a few videos that show how the animals are treated before slaughter, and during it, as well. If an animal’s willing to participate with humans in a domestication process, then so be it. The foxes that did not care for humans were not used to breed these foxes. How do you think we domesticated our wolves? We domesticated the friendlier ones, that would stick around humans for food and shelter. Same with these foxes. What about cats, ferrets, guinea pigs, cows, chickens, horses, and hogs? Is it bad we domesticated them, too, even though they were docile enough to accept the company of humans? Now I understand, if it’s an animal, like a big cat, crocodile, or something like that; however, if it’s an animal that is more predictable, and more docile, in a human filled environment, then domesticating it is a possible option. DO you see those serval cats, and how everyone bad-talks them, as pets? Those cats were DOMESTICATED by the Ancient Egyptians, along with HYENAS. Of course, the chain of domesticated servals and hyenas died out a while ago, IN EGYPT; however, a new chain of serval cats was born in the 1800’s, in Europe, and in the early 1900’s the first serval cats were being shipped to the U.S, from Europe’s serval breeding project. This means that you are pretty much down-talking an almost FULLLY domestic animal when you refer to the breeders of serval cats in the U.S. The Silver fox project was made, to prove that humans could’ve domesticated wolves in a shorter period of time, than previously thought. They proved this BY using the FRIENDLIER foxes as the ones to breed. So EVERY silver fox you see today LOVES human interaction. Also, to the idiots who think ferrets are wild-- they aren’t (4,000 years of domestication). 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:57 AM by MrAlien123456
Alligator wins for certain. Average gator is bigger and stronger. Also, crocodilians are immune to infection. 
 
Domesticating animals is wrong. Todays cow was once the great auroch. Our pig was once a wild boar. We humans made slaves of them. The dog was once a wolf. Out of every dog in America that has a good home, there are 20 who do not. Also, it is very wrong to hunt for so-called sport. 
 
In a nut-shell, humans suck. The sad thing is, modern religion supports this. The farmer/shepherd religions are anti-nature religions. I believe in the Great Spirit. He created an all-natural world. As it was meant to be.
Posted @ Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:18 AM by Toby
I disagree any atempt to make those two animals to fight. What for...never playing on mother nature.
Posted @ Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:31 PM by DMR
Dearest DMR. There is no blood shed here. I am a person who catches wasps in my house and releases them outdoors. I do not own a gun. One of my favorite fantasys is a BIG planet with one huge continent where all of earth's creatures ( other than us ) can live. But, Mother Nature is not all flowers and butterflys.
Posted @ Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:05 PM by Toby
une mendoj se asnjani heheheh
Posted @ Monday, August 02, 2010 8:20 AM by maksut
Umgowah!
Posted @ Monday, August 02, 2010 8:26 AM by Toby
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