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Siberian Tiger vs Polar Bear

  
  
  

One frequently requested Animal Fight is Siberian Tiger vs Polar Bear. These two dominant predators are the masters of their domains and even humans fear them in their natural environments.

polar bear siberian tiger

In this ultimate bear vs big cat fight, the big teeth and the ability to hold on is key. The big cat's great agility will win this one through though, as it can dominate space in three directions and the polar bear cannot easily handle an agile enemy. The polar bear, slower and not accustomed to fast moving enemies that fight back, will be unable to handle a big cat with claws and teeth. The fight is over almost before it has started, with the Siberian Tiger able to run and move swiftly in the environment.

Comments

A Siberian tiger can defeat 
 
a polar only land.The 
 
siberian tiger can easily 
 
kill a polar bear with speed,hunting skills and  
 
its huge canines and claws
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:16 PM by Div Patel
Regarding your various statements, What operational scientific proof do you have?
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:32 PM by Bubba Bear
i know a polar bear would win in a face to face fights, but tigers can bring down 100kg guars. This is because felines have been evolved to taking preys larger then them self.  
Remember, tigers are very strong animla (so are bears) in a hunt the tiger would kill the polar bear
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:41 PM by nwa
oops, i meant 1000kb guars, not 100kg lol
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:42 PM by nwa
I have no idea what you are talking about, author. I don't like flaming people, even if they are incredibly unimaginably stupid, like you. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! A POLAR BEAR IS SO MANY TIMES BIGGER! You think polar bears aren't agile, right? YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID! Bears are startlingly agile for the size, and stupid little kids like you have no idea, you just pretend that you actually have a real brain and have any intelligence at all. BEARS CAN KILL WALRUSES AND SMASH BELUGA WHALE SKULLS WITH A SINGLE BLOW!!! What can a puny little tiger do? Sure, tigers can take on gaurs, but POLAR BEARS CAN TAKE ON BULL WALRUSES AND BELUGA WHALES! I'm not saying siberian tigers are weak, I'M SAYING BEARS ARE TRUE MONSTERS!!! In a face-to-face fight, the polar bear can almost match the tiger's ferocious attacks with its own insane agility and crush the tiger's skull or break its spine or kill it quickly in various other ways as easily as we eat cheese! SO SHUT UP IF YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE AN IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND STOP POISONING PEOPLE'S MINDS WITH COMPLETELY UNTRUE FACTS!!!
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:21 PM by Hugh
This is ridiculous no big cat regardless of size, health, species stands absolutely no chance against a polar bear, the only way a big cat could win was unless the polar bear was the same size of the cat and that would be unfair for it would be a juvenile bear.
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 6:24 PM by maiel
i also believe that it is not possible for a tiger or a lion to match the strength of a polar bear.it is of ahuge size and can easily kill a tiger with single blow.There claws are very powerful that can crush the back bone of tiger very easily.a single tiger will not dare to take on a powerful polar bear.
Posted @ Monday, August 09, 2010 8:49 AM by pradeep singh
i have to say to the author, you have got some fights wrong and this is one of them. polar bears are not slow and are agile. in fact they are more or less the same teeth and claws wise. polar bears have a bigger bite force but not by too much. a polar bears swipe way more powerful and its pounce can break ice is really really thick. in neither animal could back down and avoid a fight then the polar bear would win. in saying that it would not be easy. what you need to realize is that bears a way more durable than tigers , its how they are built with layers of fat and fur so dense that the tigers claws would not be able to do alot of damage. 
 
plus if it were in the bears domain the tiger would more likey freeze. even tho amur tigers live in cold area. their fur is not as dense and the proof of that is they cant swim in the cold water were polar bears can. 
 
in this fight i see the bear having most of the advantages. polar bear wins this 8 out of 10 fights
Posted @ Monday, August 09, 2010 7:22 PM by baris
in a warm climate the tiger would struggle as much as the bear because its fur is thick.  
 
i really believe you are so biast when it comes to tigers that you just cant face the truth. you just go by speed and agility but that isnt good enough when faced with and an animal that is not that much slower and agile but is far more powerful and more tough and has the same weaponry.  
 
your wrong and u cant admit it.
Posted @ Monday, August 09, 2010 7:38 PM by baris
i haf to say i love both these animails and have studyed them. all the facts i can get. now iff a tiger were hunting the bear came up behind and attacked tigers got the fight. same iff the polar bear did it. but in a face to face fight after researching i have descovered that both tiger and lion would not charge and animal that was biger then them and go head to head with it. maby iff it was anther lion or tiger. they are much more intellagent. what they do is walk around the animail avoding attacks untill it dose one rong move then the tiger or lion would take advanteg. now iff the tigers did just go head to head the polar bear would take it down becuz there so agressive. iff you watch alout of discovory chanel and animal planet and watch the tiger and lion programs they do exsactly as i say. when lions or tigers attace crocodiles they walk around them looking for an opaning. same with bangal tigers and asian black bears iff they dont ambush them they walk around them and one rong move by the bear its game over. now i dont like how the author said the tiger would win just like that the match could go ether way verry esaly. tiger makes a rong move hes don the bear make a rong move hes don.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:25 PM by Brady
and i also haf to add that a lion once got into a plar bears cage in a zoo. they attacked echother and in the end the lion one. male lions a verry exsperianced fighters and there main provieds key protectchion to there necks. but by the sounds of the artical the lion walk around the bear verry qwicly and the bear ended up on its back leges turning like a light house lite trying to watch the lion. and every time the bear made a rong move the lion capatalized.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:33 PM by brady
Brady - 
1. When you say the lion "won" - what does that mean? Did he kill the polar bear? 
2. Where can I read the article?
Posted @ Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:52 PM by Bubba Bear
yes i mean the lion killed it. 
 
now i read the artical years ago so you mite haf to search around for it i will search to becaz i read it in the paper. so i hope it was posted somwere online
Posted @ Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:33 PM by Brady
@Brady 
I know that article it was a overgrown 600 lbs lion vs a very small 600 lbs polar bear which May I remind you a polar bear of that size is either under fed, sick or most importantly a young bear and if you want i can post the fight here. 
 
So how is that a fair fight?
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:41 AM by maiel
Fierce Struggle between a Nubian Lion and a Polar Bear, In Which The Former Won. A furious right to a finish between a  
 
 
 
fierce Nubian lion and a monster Polar bear took at -Mundy's An-  
 
 
 
.ritual Show, in. Jacksonville. Fla. The  
 
 
 
bear -was badly beaten. 'but everybody  
 
 
 
admitted. that he had made a  
 
 
 
splendid fight. "Both beasts were absolutely  
 
 
 
game all the way through.  
 
 
 
The lion carried on the fight under  
 
 
 
considerable difficulties, as toward the  
 
 
 
close the keepers were shooting him  
 
 
 
and jabbing him with redhot irons  
 
 
 
The bear owed his defeat to his weakness*  
 
 
 
in offensive tactics. In. strength,  
 
 
 
weight and endurance he was fully  
 
 
 
equal to his opponent.  
 
 
 
.The fight naturally divided itself  
 
 
 
Into rounds, ' although, of course, no  
 
 
 
time rule was observed. After a fierce  
 
 
 
bout the monsters would rest for a few  
 
 
 
moments and then go at It again. The  
 
 
 
fight lasted ten rounds.  
 
 
 
The Polar bear had angered the lion  
 
 
 
in some way. possibly by his color or  
 
 
 
his cold and reserved manner. The  
 
 
 
keepers were first aware of the. trouble  
 
 
 
when the lion smashed, the partition  
 
 
 
of iron bars that separated him from  
 
 
 
the bear.  
 
 
 
The lion is a magnificent beast, 6  
 
 
 
years old which Is the prime of life In  
 
 
 
his family. He has a very thick mane  
 
 
 
and a horrid roar. When- he roars he  
 
 
 
turns up his nose and his upper lip  
 
 
 
and displays two rows of glistening  
 
 
 
fangs. Ho weighs 600 pounds. The  
 
 
 
name Roosevelt was given him because  
 
 
 
he was so fierce and handsome. The  
 
 
 
Polar bear is an equally fine specimen  
 
 
 
of his family. Ho tramps around  
 
 
 
his cage all day in a restless manner,  
 
 
 
but rarely utters a sound. He weighs  
 
 
 
600 pounds. Ho Is called Peary, in honor  
 
 
 
of the Arctic explorer.  
 
 
 
Roosevelt started the fighting by  
 
 
 
landing with the -left part- on. Bruin's  
 
 
 
right shoulder. Owing to the enormously  
 
 
 
thick fur on the bear the blow  
 
 
 
did l i t t l e damage, although the fur  
 
 
 
flew. Peary showed a desire to get to  
 
 
 
close quarters. Roosevelt preferred to  
 
 
 
use his agile feet, delivering quick, vicious  
 
 
 
'blows and hopping aside; with  
 
 
 
lightning Quickness. the first round  
 
 
 
was principally open fighting of this  
 
 
 
kind. Peary losing much fur.  
 
 
 
In the second round Roosevelt landed  
 
 
 
heavily on Peary's nose-, knocking  
 
 
 
off a considerable portion of It. Peary  
 
 
 
seemed groggy, and Roosevelt seized  
 
 
 
the opportunity to throw in a dozen  
 
 
 
blows. Peary, however, had  
 
 
 
plenty of stamina. -He backed up  
 
 
 
against the bars and rose on his: hind  
 
 
 
legs. When Roosevelt leaped at his  
 
 
 
throat ho caught the lion a fearful  
 
 
 
on the side of his head, knocking him  
 
 
 
to the floor with a great thud  
 
 
 
both then needed a rest.  
 
 
 
In the third round Roosevelt went at  
 
 
 
once for Peary's Injured nose. The  
 
 
 
latter, however, dodged cleverly. While  
 
 
 
Roosevelt 'was rushing past Peary the  
 
 
 
l a t t e r squeezed him against the bars  
 
 
 
and began clawing,' and chewing at his  
 
 
 
relatively uncovered hind quarters.  
 
 
 
Roosevelt was unable to hit back effectively  
 
 
 
but finally succeeded In  
 
 
 
dragging himself away, uttering fearful  
 
 
 
howls and roars as he did so.  
 
 
 
Roosevelt opened the fourth round  
 
 
 
In a sensational' manner by leaping  
 
 
 
high into the air and landing- on  
 
 
 
Peary's back. This worried the rather  
 
 
 
Slow bear, and Roosevelt was left at  
 
 
 
liberty to dig into his back for some  
 
 
 
seconds. By a terrific effort Peary threw  
 
 
 
Roosevelt sideways off his back, so  
 
 
 
t h a t the lion- landed on the floor with  
 
 
 
a great crush.  
 
 
 
The -proprietor of the show and all  
 
 
 
the keepers were now around the cage  
 
 
 
doing what they could to separate the  
 
 
 
fighters. The owner realized, that every  
 
 
 
time the lion landed on the bear  
 
 
 
he knocked $50 worth, of value off him,  
 
 
 
not to speak of the possibility that  
 
 
 
both might be killed. Ac first the keepers  
 
 
 
tried long- poles and iron rods on  
 
 
 
the raging beasts, hut both were utterly  
 
 
 
disregarded. They smashed the  
 
 
 
poles like matches und knocked the  
 
 
 
iron rods back so that the men holding  
 
 
 
them were Injured.  
 
 
 
In the fifth round the lion appeared  
 
 
 
A little groggy as the result of his furious  
 
 
 
and breathless fighting. He panted  
 
 
 
heavily and trembled as he hit out  
 
 
 
at Peary. The latter pressed his opponent  
 
 
 
steadily. He tore large patches  
 
 
 
of skin from his body and seemed very  
 
 
 
nearly victor. .Suddenly the lion roused  
 
 
 
himself and gave the bear a fearful  
 
 
 
blow on his already much damaged  
 
 
 
nose. Peary stepped back. That was  
 
 
 
the signal 'for a brief return, to their  
 
 
 
corners  
 
 
 
The lion, began hostilities in the  
 
 
 
sixth* round by fixing his teeth In  
 
 
 
Peary's left hind leg. The bear tried to  
 
 
 
shake him off but the Lion held on like;  
 
 
 
death.  
 
 
 
Ono of the keepers here- intervened  
 
 
 
by jabbing a red hot iron against the  
 
 
 
lion's muzzle. A fearful stench of  
 
 
 
burning flesh and hair filled the air.  
 
 
 
The lion was at last compelled to let  
 
 
 
go of the bear. he jumped back snarl-  
 
 
 
ing horribly at the human intruder.  
 
 
 
The bear seized the opportunity to  
 
 
 
throw himself on the lion and bury his  
 
 
 
teeth in the latter's back. The keeper  
 
 
 
then turned the Iron on the bear and  
 
 
 
the fight was- stopped fop a few moments,  
 
 
 
"  
 
 
 
Roosevelt quickly recovered from the  
 
 
 
weakness he had shown and began the  
 
 
 
seventh round -with a great rush. He  
 
 
 
tore Peary's coat until be was nothing  
 
 
 
but a shapeless mass of bloody tattered  
 
 
 
fur. "The unfortunate- bear tried  
 
 
 
to hug the lion. thinking no doubt,  
 
 
 
that would stop his Jabs, but the. lion  
 
 
 
did not care for this method of fighting.  
 
 
 
Peary rose up on his hind legs  
 
 
 
and Roosevelt dealt him a right paw  
 
 
 
smash that tore most of the fur off his  
 
 
 
chest. " -  
 
 
 
The two fighters danced around and  
 
 
 
rolled 'over one another so rapidly  
 
 
 
that the keepers were unable for the  
 
 
 
time to make any attempt to separate  
 
 
 
them.  
 
 
 
The ninth round began -with both  
 
 
 
fighters groggy, but still 1n the ring-  
 
 
 
The lion, had had his right paw bitten  
 
 
 
through. His mane was nearly all torn  
 
 
 
away. His back and hind quarters  
 
 
 
, were badly damaged. His left leg was  
 
 
 
nearly useless. He could not see out of  
 
 
 
his right eye  
 
 
 
The bear was much more badly off  
 
 
 
There was not a space on him as large as  
 
 
 
A man's hand that was not torn and  
 
 
 
Bloody His head was in such a  
 
 
 
deplorable condition that his nose and  
 
 
 
eyes were unrecognizable. All his paws  
 
 
 
were bitten through. His back was  
 
 
 
literally ploughed by the lion's claws.  
 
 
 
still, they kept on fighting. They  
 
 
 
growled, roared. shrieked, moaned and  
 
 
 
splattered as they did so.  
 
 
 
The bear now accomplished what he  
 
 
 
had been trying all along to do. He got  
 
 
 
a fair grip. But this move proved after  
 
 
 
all to be Peary's ruin The bear hugged  
 
 
 
the lion until the by-standers could  
 
 
 
hear the feline lighter's bones creak  
 
 
 
and groan. The lion- gasped almost  
 
 
 
breathless, but still he managed to get  
 
 
 
teeth into the under side of the  
 
 
 
bear's .throat, one of the most vulnerable  
 
 
 
parts of his body.  
 
 
 
In the death embrace the tenth  
 
 
 
round was fought out. The bear kept  
 
 
 
on squeezing the lion kept on. gripping  
 
 
 
with his teeth. The throat grip was  
 
 
 
more than the bear could stand. slowly  
 
 
 
he relaxed his grip an-d sank on his  
 
 
 
Back beaten and half dead.  
 
 
 
The lion stood over him snarling as  
 
 
 
if he meant to eat him. At this moment  
 
 
 
a courageous Keeper stepped up  
 
 
 
and smote Roosevelt between the eyes  
 
 
 
with-an iron bar. He then seemed to  
 
 
 
think he had had enough and dragged  
 
 
 
himself back to his cage quietly, where  
 
 
 
he was "barred In.  
 
 
 
The circus men secured the animals  
 
 
 
with ropes, and four veterinary surgeons  
 
 
 
set to work on their  
 
 
 
wounds. They bound them up with  
 
 
 
antiseptic dressings wherever they  
 
 
 
could and in other places used largo  
 
 
 
strips of plaster.  
 
 
 
The lion will probably recover, but  
 
 
 
The condition of the bear is desperate.
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:53 AM by maiel
They didn't even give the age of the bear but a overgrown 6 year old male lion in his prime fighting a young or underfed or sick polar bear is an even fight. 
Look people there is no contest the only other land predator that could stand up to a polar bear face - face is a Kodiak bear. 
I can see the tiger hunting the bear because tigers have been known to successfully hunt and kill animals larger than a polar bear like a gaur though rare. But that's hunting not fighting. 
A lion or tiger is as good as dead meat when up against face-face with a polar bear and nothing else to think other wise would be ridiculous.
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:02 AM by maiel
i really dont believe that article at all. who in the right mind would put a bear enclosure beside a lion enclosure it is un heard of. i also think the bear was at a massive disadvantage at start because the polar bear would over heat due to not being in cold climate. if some one could give me a link to this article so i can check it out. this article just seems a load of shit to me, people can make shit up and they do its called fiction. 
 
now i am not saying that a lion or a tiger could not kill a bear because they can but the bear has the best chance and would win 8 out 10 fights (depending on the bear). i love tigers and lions they are so incredible but i think people underestimate incredible bear. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:53 PM by baris
ok lets look at it this way watch a lion fight see how they have the most powerful strick of all the big cats. bring that down on the bears face. could cauz eye damage or just a nasty scrach. but check out the canins on tigers and lions iff they get aholde of the bears neck it dont matter how thick the fure is esepchally a siberian tiger witch has amazing canine teath. 
 
bears like to power takle were they just smash into there aponets. lion or tiger wouls capitalize biting the neck. 
 
watch how dogs fight agants bears now they have no chance but look at how fast they can get out of the way of a bear. a tiger is faster then that. a strick to the head here a strick to the head there. it adds up. 
 
now im saying that this fight would be 7/10 bear vs lion and 5/10 bear vs tiger. 
 
 
 
there have bin manny virtual fights mad bettween lions vs tiger grizzlys and polar bears. and a lion wins most of them all exsept aganst the polar bear witch is usally 5/10. 
 
now i disagree with the post lion vs bangal tiger. it said the lion stood no chance in hell. a siberian tiger would have a good challenge from a male lion. but the bengal tiger fisacaly dominating that is untrue. here are the facts the tiger is only larger becuze he is thiker stockyer and heaveyer. the lion is taller and longer. so were looking at to animails just berrly difrent in size. tiger is stronger and faster but not by much. tigers box and dont hit as hard as the lions do. 
 
now for the lion. ever since he was a cub hes bin traning to fight for a pride. his thick main provides key protektion to the neck. lions have the most stamina of all big cats and is better built for longer fights.  
 
i truly think lion vs begal tiger could truly go ether way 5/10 but siberian tiger vs lion 7/10 
 
just wanted to make that point sorry iff know one wanted to here about it
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:15 PM by brady
your saying thats not a fare fight how about a 450-500 pound lion versis a polar bear 800- 1 234pouns
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:18 PM by brady
you talk about the teeth as tho bears are small heres a link with some pictures of bears teeth and you will see they are just as big. 
 
http://nature.ca/education/cls/lp/lppbtth_e.cfm 
 
 
 
also the bear has a bigger bitting force so the tiger or lion is matched in that regard. 
 
you say that a lion hitting the face of a bear will cause damage which could happen for sure but if a bear hits the lion or the tiger its going to cause a skull fracture even worse death. you think a lion has a powerful punch which it does but its a lot weaker than a bears punch. 
 
 
 
you say the tiger and lion move around the bear but the bear would just follow the movement of them. i mean i could follow their movements myself and humans are not as fast as bears. i bet the you see the bear facing 2 dogs ,which makes movement harder to follow.  
 
a fair fight would be an average male adult lion against a average adult male polar bear. 
 
 
 
i believe people are converted by mans propaganda on the image of lions and tigers as being king of beasts and not take into account that the bears are the true kings. 
 
 
 
i also want to put across the fact that people hunt bears but only pick the big ones to hunt, this leaves the smaller runts to breed. 
 
tigers are not hunted in this way due to being protected now(although it prob still happens) 
 
 
 
dont get me wrong tho lions and tigers are better hunters compared to brown bears but polar bears are good hunters too. 
 
 
 
i do agree with you brady that tigers do not dominate lions in a fight head to head. when tiger and lion fight it comes down to the individual animal. i think tho a male lions mane is a disadvantage tho, this i believe because if the tiger striked the lion and the claws get caught on the thick mane , it is a lot like pullin someones hair on their head. if i pull someones hair their head is going to follow and that puts them off balance and at disadvantage. 
 
 
 
its like when girls fight they pull each others hair and the throw each other to the ground. 
 
so thats why lions are at a disadvanatge and makes it harder fight for them.
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:55 PM by baris
thats funny pulling the lions hair i like that 
 
 
 
now back to the debat im am gona stick strongly to my resear and my nolige. yes a bears blow would be devastating and it all depends on how the fight gose. a lion would not get out of the way as fast as a tiger would. now i belive iff the bear were to stand up on his hind legs and the tiger pounced noking the bear back wereds and grabing the bottom of his neck the fight would be over just like in the lion polar bear figh yess they were the same size but the lion got ahold of the neck and held on mostly for pride resons you know. and the bear tryed to get him off but as the air gose so dos the strenth
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:03 PM by brady
i understand what you mean an yeah that could happen but a bear that is bigger than the lion or tiger would have more fat and skin around the neck so it may not get the throat most of the time. also if the tiger or lion pounced at the bear while it was standin it could bring its hammer paw down on the lion or tiger.
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:23 PM by baris
did you check the link? 
 
Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:26 PM by baris
yes good point but would the bear acthully strick. in close combat the tiger could be up on the bear befor the bear could swip. im not sure iff the bear can flexs like that to get the powerful swip he may just be able to push the tiger off. unless the tiger moves to slow then its gona be a nasty hit. 
 
 
 
i admire big cats there my favert animals allong with the killer whale. i have went around the word on my own spare time not as a job to watch and study the animals. iv seen lions, bengal tigers, siberian tigers, jaguars, leapords, cougar/mountain lion, cheetah. 
 
and i haf to say the bear and the only one with thick hide. the siberian tiger has a verry thike hid as well but it laks the fat.
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 8:06 AM by brady
This is from a guy over at the tiger vs bear stuff and he said this. I posted it because he seems to know a lot more than you you guys do about the fighting style of these animals but he was talking about tiger vs a coastal grizzly. 
 
Now don’t get me wrong for I do not favor the tiger over the bear nor do I favor the bear over the tiger. I’m just trying to understand how you guys view the fight.  
 
It is said that a single blow from a grizzly to the head or back of a moose (380–720 kg) or bison (410 - 1,000 kg) can kill it but it is also said that a single blow form a tiger to a gaur (1000kg-1500kg) is more than enough to cause serious damage to the animal. How true are these statements no can tell grizzlies prefer to hunt the calf of bison that the adults while tigers will usually kill animals weighting less than 200 kg. I’m not saying that a bear cannot kill a moose or a bison with one blow or that a tiger cannot injure gaur with a single blow but these cases are so rare.  
 
Reason there are by far more interaction with humans and grizzlies than you have with siberian tigers and humans  
 
Checking back at person that are killed by grizzlies you will find that no person died from a single blow no matter where the grizzly had hit its human victim. Most people die after being maul to death by the animal.  
 
In a fight with the tiger if the bear can manage to get a good strong blow at the tigers back or even his head then his chances of being victorious is very high. But this factor is actually dependant and how the tiger decides to fight. As in my previous comment tigers have two/three fighting styles a bear as two but usually relies on one.  
 
After well ‘doing my homework’ as most of you put it I am quite surprised of what is here, most of which is just someone defending his/her opinion with little or no evidence.  
 
More than 80% of a grizzly’s charges are bluff and almost very time the bear charges it turns its back to its opponent as seen in a case with a bear is trying to scare off a dog. The bear lowers his head and his ears are flat atop its head, in a way showing that the bear as no intention of wasting its energy on actually killing the dog. Another way is the bears ability to stand on it hind legs and appears to be bigger this is also another form of intimidation and it usually works but it can also be a flawed error when facing a tiger or even a lion for that matter.  
 
Now the bears fighting style is typically to stand on its hind legs and swing its paws like clubs, if the tiger chooses to fight like this also on his hind legs then he is surely died. But the bears fighting style isn’t all that secure when he stands he is reveling his underside to the tiger and if the tiger decides to fight low to the ground it can cause a great deal amount of damage to the bear, if the tiger gets hold of the stomach with its claws and jaws it can even rip the bears stomach open much like the record of the tiger choosing to attack the lion’s hide legs instead of the lion’s neck. And while the lion was immobilized the tiger proceeded to rip his stomach open. 
 
In an Enclosed Area  
 
Now the bears fighting style is typically to stand on its hind legs and swing its paws like clubs, if the tiger chooses to fight like this also on his hind legs then he is surely died. But the bears fighting style isn’t all that secure when he stands he is reveling his underside to the tiger and if the tiger decides to fight low to the ground it can cause a great deal amount of damage to the bear, if the tiger gets hold of the stomach with its claws and jaws it can even rip the bears stomach open much like the record of the tiger choosing to attack the lion’s hide legs instead of the lion’s neck. And while the lion was immobilized the tiger proceeded to rip his stomach open.  
 
To my previous statement a tiger/big cats attacking like this will also go after the hind legs maybe with a force strong enough to cause the bear the topple over backwards/forward. What the tiger will do after that depends on the tiger.  
 
The standing issue: the average grizzly bear will stand 7ft tall and a tiger on its hind legs 7-8 ft tall given the body length is 6 or either 7 ft long.  
 
Typically a tiger would attack the face of the bear but a single hit to the tiger's rib cage will automatically cause internal damage to the tiger. How hard the animals will hit each other is again depends on the animals and single hits form the tiger to the bear’s head can rip the bear's scalp off. If the bear tries to hug the tiger then this can be a fatal move. Big cats in close quarters to anything will almost always attempt to maul its victim. The bear can risk damage to its chest and stomach having it letting go of the tiger.  
 
The strength issue: this also depends on how the animals are built a grizzly can move a boulder with the diameter of the average man’s arm span because bears are built in that way, a tiger in any case can never do that but a case of a tiger of unknown gender was able to pull a dead bull guar which 13 adult men could not even budge I’m pretty sure a bear could accomplish this task as well but how strong are the animals is unknown. Most of which is there is based upon estimations.  
 
But in the end the fight will not be easy for both competitors for even in Siberia male tigers and male brown bears are said to be a threat to each other but I’ll give the advantage to the bear for strength.
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 10:53 AM by B
Good analysis B. 
 
I believe this fight is a 99/100 for the bear whether he's fighting a tiger or a lion.
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 11:14 AM by Nealw
99/100 eh i dont think that can happan when were talking about fights between bears and lions/tigers. 
 
there were multiple simulations after doing multiple test. testing jaw strenth claw damage mussel fat and hid desaty. fighting styles and behavors were all put into these virtual animails. and polar bear versus lion was one of them. and they did 100 fights. the polar bear won 65 of the fights leving 35 fights to the lion now the not 99/100. they had griizy vursis bangal tiger. 53 fights for the grizzly and of corse 46 fights for the tiger. and the magoraty of the fight won my tiger or lion were one by the animal geting ahold of the bears neck. and the bear can not shake them off. the never did do siberian tiger vs bear they just did siberian tiger vs afracan male lion
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 12:55 PM by brady
wow i got to take my time that was teribley spelt rong
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 12:57 PM by brady
99 is possible, you keep basing your theory on the throat hold thing when it very hard for both animals to get to the bear's throat without getting a serious blow from the bear. 
A bear of that size like a polar or coastal brown can cause serious damage to a lion or tiger's face with a single swipe. 
There is a video of a tigress fighting a lioness and a single blow form the tigress paw to the lioness's face broke the lioness's jaw. 
Now a bear is bigger than a tiger and certainly much stronger just imagine what one swipe from the bear's paw would do to a lion or a tiger's face. 
The cats would be in so much pain and might even loose a few teeth then fighting back would be hard for them. 
where did you get those # from animal face off?
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 1:16 PM by Nealw
What the hell do you mean by a bear couldnt shake the cat of if they go for the throat hold,did you not see the fight on the history channel with the american lion vs the short faced bear? 
The bear just through the lion of like it was a friggin rag doll, the cat as no chance.
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 1:31 PM by SBTIN
do you not relive that that fight was and interpritation simulation they have no evadens that the short faced bear could of shook of the amercan lion the also interprited how the lion and bear would figh. so that fight means noth. the fight in the zoo between the lion and polar bear means alout the polar bear tryed to get the lion to let go but he wouldent sufacating the bear. and for the ather coment im only stayting how the tiger or lion could win. iff the desided to go paw to paw the bear would probly win im just saying how the tiger/lion could win. 
 
 
 
also look at a siberian tiger iv seen one befor and totched a trancolized one in captivaty there hids are thike and the do have fat on the for protekting as well. but not as mutch as a bear dose
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 4:31 PM by brady
i would also like to add iff enneyone cares. 
 
now im not bullshiting you you can belive me iff you want but im telling the truth. i do alout of traping in my home town. i set a foot snare for a bear. i usally trap bears and wolves. bever also. 
 
 
 
i reterned to the trap site with my son. we both had rifles so iff we had a bear we could shoot him. we slowly moved throw the bush to the opan part were i had set the bate and the snare. a big black bear 450 pounds i weghed him. lay on the growned in a site that looked as iff it were a battle ground. i slowly aprotched him. poking him with my gun. his foot was tightly in the snare. i my son notised two holes in the back of the bears neck. i investagetid them. there were two on the other side as well. and little claw marks in the bears neck. around the site were big cat trakes one larger then the other. with the smaller set were the hind paws and the biger ones were the front. plus little snake like lines were on the ground. and theres only one animal in my area that has teeth like that paws and a tail the hangs low. think about that. i live in canada thats a hint. 
 
i brout the bear home and began skining it. there a buger to skin but my son assists me. were the teeth mark had gon in it had sever the spinul cord. the neck bone was only crushed in the small spot on both sides. the left side of the animals caninis penatrated it probly cazing perazization then death. i dont know for sure iff it was this animal but the facts push hard towared it
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 4:51 PM by brady
B i think your analysis was good and brady what you say is true. but look at the shape of the neck of bulls and other animals that lion and tigers kill, they are slender. on the bull its thicker but like v shape at the bottom. a bears neck is more round because the muscle around it (depending on the type of bear). 
 
 
 
B a bear would be able to generate enough force standing due to gravity plus the muscle it has on its shoulders. bears dig,break thick ice (depending on the bear type) which gives them that power. so a downwards swipe from a bear would do damage( may not kill but hurt the aniaml none the less). 
 
 
 
but like you said it depends on how the animals fight each other. 
 
 
 
brady a bear can shake off quite easily a tiger or lion if the bear is bigger, which in most cases they are. but if they are the same size then maybe not unless it gets lucky. i say the tiger or lion going for the throat is a risky move that can win the fight for the tiger or lion or be its downfall. the bear hide is thicker than the tigers, the skin is thicker,fat and denser fur. the bears are tougher and can take a lot of damage before they fall where as lions and tigers are not as tough because they are built for speed and agillity and could not take as much damage.  
 
 
 
these fights can go either way depending on how the animals fight but in most cases i think the bear would win 8 out of 10. 
 
 
 
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 5:21 PM by baris
did you gess what killed the black bear i have a good huntch but i dont know iff you gesed it i got confused by your first sentensize. 
 
 
 
well i prety mutch say i belive a cougar killed that bear and i belive iff the tiger was hunting the bear and had the saprise attack he would sever the spine as well 
 
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 6:47 PM by brady
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDerk1--Ic 
 
heres a cool little like ist a video miksed with siberian tiger feeding on russion brown bears well there like all these shows that state they do feed on them
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 7:03 PM by brady
dont know what black bear you mean. but tigers do feed on young male, female and cub bears. i really doubt that one on one with a proper sized male bear a tiger would live to see the next day. it will run from the large bear or the bar would avoid confontation. a suprise attack would give the tiger an advantage but considering the bear is wide and the spine doesnt stick out the spine being severed is not likely at all. and a amur tiger does not average 800 lbs only a large specimen that is captive, over fed ,fat tiger would reach that and that would only hinder it because it couldnt run fast, very short stamina and isnt built for that kinda weight. it averages the weight bit more than an bengal tiger prob average 450 to 650 (may vary in differnt time in year) females average 300 to 450. 
 
 
 
brady you are showing me mans propaganda if you are wise you wouldnt believe everything you hear and read. tell me this how many people have seen these animals have a fight or a face off. people only go by speculation and which they deem would happen. a tiger can run 50 mph yeah sure how long is it gonna keep that up? i mean a cheetah can only keep 70mph for only 30 seconds then it needs 30 minute rest before it can eat its catch. a tiger has poor stamina cause it is an ambush predator.  
 
i just dont see how people can be fooled and mis lead so easily.  
 
im not putting the tiger down im just stating fact. 
 
a large tiger may be able to kill a adult male brown bear but i know that tiger is gonna be near death from injuries. 
 
 
 
Posted @ Friday, August 13, 2010 8:56 PM by baris
the only thing is we can argue all we want but nobudy knows the full potential of a siberian tiger there so misteryis and iff they have bin found feeding on large male browns i have know dout they could kill a polar witch arnt that mutch larger. its tobad we couldent get a head to head fight between a brown and a siberian but that could almost be inpossible. 
 
 
 
you guys are gona be without me for a couple of days heading to indea with my son. we have alout of friends over there that work with the asian lion so were gona help out. i can get internet over there but it will take me almost a week to get setaled in so talk to you all then
Posted @ Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:56 PM by brady
u are right brady we could argue but we dont know the potenial of either animal. when i die if will come back as a large bear and you come back as a big tiger or lion, then we will duke it out lol  
 
 
 
good luck in india
Posted @ Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:29 AM by baris
Let me see if I got this right; 
 
A 600lb Siberian Tiger, and I'm being generous with the weight, is gonna take a 1200lb Polar Bear? 
 
And I'm to understand that the reason is because the Tiger is more agile? 
 
Sounds to me that somebody just wants the Tiger to win, regardless of the facts. 
 
Folks, we're talking about THE largest land predator on earth. Polar Bears have routinely reached 3 times the size of ANY Tiger. 
 
The strength of the Polar Bear is immense, and they can indeed, grasp and hold prey, and they're a lot quicker than the author of this "fight" allows. 
 
In fact, the conclusion he comes to, and the reasons thereof, are so infantile and silly, that I don't see how anybody can take hime seriously.
Posted @ Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:39 PM by Jayson
Jayson, 
 
A polar bear is not three times the size of a tiger, in fact an average polar bear is 900 lb. 
 
A Gaur weights 3000 lb, and a tiger can kill it, so why not a bear? 
 
A tiger will encircle the bear until it saw an oppertunity from behind. This is how exactly they kill large bovids. 
 
Now a Gaur is stronger than a bear (physicaly) so why can't a tiger kill a polar bear? 
 
If a tiger's killer claws get a good grip on the bear. There is no way the bear can escape. 
 
The tiger will win. YES a polar bear is stronger, but a tiger knows how to kill an animal larger than itself. 
 
Of course a bear CAN win, although not always.
Posted @ Monday, August 16, 2010 9:41 PM by Zack
Ok Zack. Let's take the avg size of the Tiger, which from everything I've read, is just a tick over 450lbs, and the avg size of the Polar Bear, which, again from everything I've read, is closer to a 1,000lbs, not 900lbs. 
 
But for the sake of argument, let's make it 900lbs. 
 
That's twice the size of the Tiger. 
 
Now let's get a couple of other things straight; 
 
The Siberian Tiger will hardly EVER take on a full grown male Gaur. They usually go after females or the very young, sick or old. 
 
2nd, the Polar Bear is a PREDATOR! 
 
It's not gonna just let the Tiger circle and get behind him. The Bears claws are designed to dig into ICE. It is incredibly strong, has tremendous stamina, and is insulated by almost 4 inches of blubber. 
 
It's also highly intelligent. And yes, the Bear knows how to kill animals much larger than itself, including Walruses and even, on the very, VERY rare occasion, Whales. 
 
Sorry Zack, but the Tiger just cannot compete with the Polar Bear. If it came to a fight, the Polar Bear will be dining on Tiger meat.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:18 AM by Jayson
Polar bears kill walrus and even beluga whales and narwals. The polar bear is the second most powerful land carnivore ( although he is semi-aquatic ). The tiger will stand very little chance in this fight.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:01 PM by Toby
IF you go back in time 20,000 years and beyond, you will discover many mega-beasts. Today, on land, there are only a few. These are the elephants, hippos, rhinos, the gaur, and only 2 carnivores, the brown bear and the polar bear. The big cats cannot compete with these mega-carnivores.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:05 PM by Toby
Jayson, 
 
You cannot compare a walrus with a tiger. Can a walrus charge at 50 mph? Of course not, they are sluggish. And bengula whales are actually small, rarely reaching 3000 lbs. 
 
And a tiger DOES kill Gaur on occassion, yes I have many records of evidence upon this: 
 
http://www.wildwatch.com/sightings/tiger-on-a-gaur-kill 
 
(Karanth (1993) examined 181 tiger kills and found that most large prey, such as sambar and gaur, were killed by throat bites. 
 
The prey is then usually dragged into cover, tigers displaying their great strength in dragging, even lifting, heavy carcasses. Pocock (1939) cites an instance in Burma of a tiger dragging the carcass of a gaur that 13 men could not move.  
 
Even female tigers, which are considerably smaller than male tigers, are capable of taking down and killing adult gaurs by themselves.)  
 
http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/tigerpredationongaurs.htm 
 
So my question is, If a tiger can kill a Gaur why not a Polar bear? 
 
A Gaur is stronger than a Bear and also more aggressive. A tiger kills a Gaur by encircle it and leap on it's behind, ripping skin and bitting in the throat. 
 
A Gaur is also more durable with muscles packed around the body, making it more difficult to kill. 
 
If a tiger
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:31 PM by Zack
Zach, First, I‘ve been checking into this gaur stuff and what seems to be continuously overlooked is that the vast majority of these guars killed were young or feeble. Second, the other side of the coin is that MANY adult male tigers have been killed by guars. Your question “why not kill a polar bear” is beyond baffling. Perhaps this link can help you understand –http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict13.html 
Your speculation that a gaur is more aggressive than a large bear contradicts what professional hunters have documented.  
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:44 PM by Bubba Bear
Well Bubba bear according to Schaller during one of his many observation of Indian wild life a tiger of unknown gender was able to take down one of the biggest bull gaur he had known. 
Yes these case are rare but tiger are fully capable and have indeed killed male gaur s before. 
 
But this is a fight not a hunt, the tiger caught the gaur off guard by ambush. 
And I have to say it is indeed quite useless to compare their hunting technique of and animal to its fight techniques. 
And yes there are records of gaur trampling tigers to death more so than tigers killing adult gaurs. 
 
But as some one here said before its not a hunt its a fight. 
 
Both animals are face to face in enclose area where non can escape from each other so please stick to that scenario.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:18 PM by Larry
Larry, I’m not sure what you’re implying (“please stick to that scenario), but I think you and I are in agreement. To be clear, my position is that in an ambush, anything is possible: tiger could kill guar or tiger could kill adult bear. But in most head to head matches, a guar or polar or grizzly would smash the tiger.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:33 PM by Bubba Bear
By scenario I meant the fight being enclosed and with no routes of escape but yes an average sized polar bear is way too much for any big cat to handle in a face to face to match.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:22 PM by Larry
a tiger DOES kill Gaur on occassion, yes I have many records of evidence upon this:  
 
http://www.wildwatch.com/sightings/tiger-on-a-gaur-kill  
 
(Karanth (1993) examined 181 tiger kills and found that most large prey, such as sambar and gaur, were killed by throat bites.  
 
The prey is then usually dragged into cover, tigers displaying their great strength in dragging, even lifting, heavy carcasses. Pocock (1939) cites an instance in Burma of a tiger dragging the carcass of a gaur that 13 men could not move.  
 
Even female tigers, which are considerably smaller than male tigers, are capable of taking down and killing adult gaurs by themselves.)  
 
http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/tigerpredationongaurs.htm  
 
So my question is, If a tiger can kill a Gaur why not a Polar bear?  
 
A Gaur is stronger than a Bear and also more aggressive. A tiger kills a Gaur by encircle it and leap on it's behind, ripping skin and bitting in the throat.  
 
A Gaur is also more durable with muscles packed around the body, making it more difficult to kill.  
 
If a tiger can kill a Gaur (I have evidence on this) why not a much weaker bear? 
 
You want more: 
 
http://kalyanvarma.net/photography/photo.php?id=27&tag=Kil 
 
One morning while on a safari, I found this dead gaur, barely eaten by a tiger. That night after getting a permit from the forest department, I along with Malini the other naturalist and Narayana the local tribal chap stayed up in front of this kill in the night. We saw lots of leopards (one of them almost jumped on me) but missed the Tiger, which came after we left, which I managed to capture in the camera trap  
 
http://video.clipta.com/Tiger_kills_Adult_Gaur_the_largest_wild_Cattle_in_the__vf4f90bf9792d26a74fe1 
 
Watch the video 
 
http://video.clipta.com/Tiger_kills_Adult_Gaur_the_largest_wild_Cattle_in_the__vf4f90bf9792d26a74fe1 
 
What about a Water buffalo? Go to: 
 
http://www.3gpdb.com/videoy.php?b=8WQ99ap3_7b&tiger-kills-bull-water-buffalo-in-natural-settings-photo-taken-in-c 
 
http://www.hindu.com/2006/01/19/stories/2006011902080300.htm 
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22086638/ 
 
The tiger later killed a buffalo in the same area near Mangrul village, 60 miles south of the city of Nagpur. ... 
 
So my question is, if a tiger can kill a Giant Adult Bovid why not a Bear? 
 
They will use the same strategy, encircle and leap, hold on and bite. 
 
WHY NOT?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:53 PM by Zack
In a hunt a tiger would win more than not often, but in a cage match I admit the polar bear is the favorite. 
 
Happy, Larry?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:56 PM by Zack
Because a gaur, like any other cow, is about as smart as a brick. The polar bear, however, is much smarter than the tiger.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:56 PM by Toby
Toby, will intelligence help a monkey save himself from a T-Rex? 
 
http://www.gan.ca/animals/cows.en.html 
 
Cows aren't stupid, infact they are quite smart. I assume same goes with the Gaur, being a relative.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:01 PM by Zack
Zack I think you must be confusing me with someone else I have never had a discussion with you before. 
And Toby you still come with the intelligence thing again. 
Not in Zack case but do you think a chimps brain can save it from a hungry leopard?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:07 PM by Larry
just to point somthing out iff a bangle tiger can take down a gaur then what could a siberian tiger witch averiges around 660pounds will do. 
 
 
 
i understand how power full a bear is but the evadence shows. the lion killed the polar and siberians have bin found with large adult male brown bear carcasis. now that mite not be head on head. 
 
but the lion fight was. evan thouw the bear was the same size what happened to all that bone size claw size thick fat and hid and intellagents the lion won. 
 
allso how do we know a bears smarter
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:57 PM by brady
Brady, if the Lion and the Polar Bear were the same size, then that was either one humongus Lion, or one scrawny Polar Bear. 
 
Which do you think it was?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:10 PM by Jayson
the lion was over sized at 600 pounds. the polar was around the same but were were those factors that make the polar bear so deadly other then its size
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:13 PM by brady
Brady, I have no idea what the details of this face-off was, I don't know where it happened, I don't know what the conditions were....the only thing that we apparently know, is that a Huge lion, obviously in prime condition, went up against a less than robust Polar Bear, and won. 
 
 
 
If they were both healthy males, the lion was a full-grown (VERY full-grown) adult, while the Polar Bear had to have been a young or undersized male. 
 
No matter how you look at it, the Bear was at a disadvantage. 
 
You're being less than honest in trying to push this as a fair fight.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:35 PM by Jayson
Toby how do you know that cows are stupid what are you a senile old man? 
Can you prove this?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:39 PM by Swipe
Perception Mr.Swipe. 
 
Perception = insight gained from observation. The ability to see clearly what you are looking at.  
 
I grew up in the country. I was around lots of cattle. Believe me, they are not bright. 
 
Of all the carnivores, bears have the highest brain-to-body mass ratio. Bears are the most intelligent mammals in North America. Bears are near great ape intelligence. 
 
We are not talking about chimps and leopards here. 
 
The polar bear is much bigger, stronger, more stamina, better ballance, weight advantage, and much smarter. 
 
The tiger kills by strangling his prey with a bite on the throat, or by biting into the base of the neck at the spine. Either way, the tiger must get his jaws onto the bear's neck. 
 
The polar bear has tremenduous strength in his massive arms. The tiger cannot get past this defense. The tiger must try to manuver around and attempt a sneak attack. But ( this is where intelligence comes into play ) the polar bear is just too smart for the tiger. Each hit from the bear does considerable damage to the less powerful cat. The pola 
 
r bear will win 7 out of 10 fights. 
 
average polar bear...700 pounds. 
 
average Siberian tiger...420 pounds.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:32 PM by Toby
Brady, I’d have to agree with Jayson. I did read the article and here’s my thoughts: 
The article made it clear that the fight was very long (10 rounds) and in several rounds the lion nearly got killed. The article also made it clear that the lion was the one always on the offensive. The poor bear was just minding his own business. The lion was above average size and the bear was below average size. Clearly, the bear was not fully grown in size, but perhaps also not fully developed in fierceness and fighting skills. So surely if the bear was fully grown in size and fighting instincts and if he were the one on the offensive, the lion would’ve been killed – and most likely very quickly.  
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:47 PM by Bubba Bear
Not becasue domesticated cows don't show that they are smart mean anything. 
And how does comparing a wild animal to a domesticated one prove anything?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:05 PM by Swipe
Take your bull to the bull vs bear page.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:09 PM by Toby
I asked for a valid reason you comparing a farm boy and a Shaolin monk to a lion/tiger and a brown bear was a very poor explanation.  
But how do you know that bears think like this where is your proof as I had stated mine with the hyena?  
How do you know that ant given ber will calculate dodging and where to hit when faced with an opponent?  
How do you know that a lion/tiger are incapable of doing this?  
How do you know that either one of the tiger/lion will mindlessly charge at the bear and hoping to strike blow or visa versa?  
 
That is what I'm asking where do you get this from?  
you seem to ignore it and my other question so i will ask again.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:09 PM by Larry
indeed toby i would love for you to answer larry's question.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:13 PM by Swipe
Toby i believe you have a reading problem  
you claim the cow is dumb and i asked why 
where exactly did i saw a cow could kill a bear?
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:17 PM by Swipe
On second thought Toby do not answer those questions, its really better to ignore it than to give a bullshit answer. 
I know all you have is your opinion and no proof like with the hyena incident( I know you did little research on that topic) so I will mind if you just leave it alone.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:27 PM by Larry
Well I don't know about you Larry but I do believe he is a senile old man. 
I still want to know where he I said that a cow could beat a gorilla when I only asked his reason for saying the cow was dumb.
Posted @ Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:01 PM by Swipe
As for the intelligence of a bovine, take your bull to the Bull vs Bear page. 
 
As for how does intelligence play in a face-off...since you are too dense to understand my first explanation... 
 
The polar bear is much smarter than the tiger. The tiger can only kill the bear if he can get his jaws onto the bears neck. But, the bear has extremely powerful arms. One hit from the polar bear will do considerable damage to the tiger. Therefore, the tiger must try to turn this face-off into an ambush attack. 
 
The tiger will attempt to circle around and attack the bear from behind. BUT, this will not work. Why? Because the bear is smarter than the cat. He knows what the tiger is attempting. The polar bear will kill the tiger.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:51 AM by Toby
ya but the bear ant gona make a perfike chocie every time. hes not use to a tiger an animal behing pacent instead of charging in and fighting in a big brwal. 
 
iff the bear makes one rong move or comes at the tiger and missis 
 
and the tiger dont trip up on the rebound he could have the bears neck. 
 
 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:50 AM by brady
You are right Brady. That is why I say that a polar bear will only win 80% of the time. If the tiger can manage to sink those meat-hook claws into him, to hold on with, and get his jaws onto the bear's throat, or the base of his neck, then the tiger can win this fight. But, the big cat's chances of doing this are slim at best.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:01 AM by Toby
Toby, a polar bear knows what the tiger is up to when it encircles it? 
 
Yes because polar bears have tons of experience fighting big cats! They fight Lions, Jaguars, Leopards and Cougars al the time. They co-excist with them everywhere they live. Of course, because bears are smarter than humans (according to Toby). And yes people this was sarcasm 
 
In this battle it depends if the tiger has enough space, so he can encircle the bear and tire it out (polar bears lack on stanima even int their natural surroundings). Remember a tiger can move 3 dimensional rather unlike bears, who cannot jump. 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:59 PM by Zack
In an open area with no water, the tiger will win. He will use the same strategy on the polar bear like any other. Encircle it, this will be easier, sinds the polar bear tires quickly. 
 
In an enclosed cage, the bear will emerge victorious most of the time
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:01 PM by Zack
true enof zack. 
 
in the opan i think the fight could go ether way depending on the indavidual animal. i think the auther should describe how big and stat iff the tiger he has chosen to fight repersenting the tigers is in it prime. 
 
but i belive the bear would win 8/10 times in a cage fight.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:17 PM by brady
Brady, Zack believes that a tiger is a stronger predator than a polar bear or a brown bear. Of course, there are those among us that know better. 
 
No, I have never claimed nor suggested that a bear has human intelligence. Bears are equal in intelligence with elephants. But not as smart as the great apes or the whales and dolphins. 
 
Of all the carnivores, bears have the highest brain-to-body mass ratio. The top 10 intelligent mammals are ( since Zack brought it up ) 
 
#1- Great apes. 
 
#2- Whales and Dolphins. 
 
#3- Elephants and Bears. 
 
#4- Monkeys and Lesser Apes. 
 
#5- Raccoons, Red Pandas, and Pinnipeds. 
 
#6- Wolves, Foxes, and Dogs.  
 
#7- Weasels and Skunks. 
 
#8- Cats and Hyeanas. 
 
#9- Civits and Mongooses. 
 
#10- Wild Boar and other Suidae. 
 
And yet, Zack believes that the tiger will win this fight by outsmarting the bear. But, if the tiger is so strong and ferocious, as Zack claims, why must the tiger try to sneak around behind the bear? There are only 2 mega-carnivores living on present day earth. The Brown Bear and the Polar Bear.  
 
 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:15 PM by Toby
Zack, You need to tell us where you came up with the idea that Polar Bears have less stamina than Tigers. Polar Bears have been known to swim for miles. If anything, the Polar Bear has MORE stamina than the Tiger. 
 
Now let's take a look at how you think the Tiger would attack the Bear. 
 
You do realize that the Polar Bear would recognize the Tiger as a threat? If so, what makes you think the Bear would allow the Tiger to get behind it? 
 
You're not making ANY sense at all. 
 
This is NOT a Guar. 
 
THIS is the LARGEST LAND PREDATOR on earth. It is a MEAT EATER.  
 
Any Tiger who doesn't turn around and goes back the other way upon 
 
coming across a PREDATOR who is, on average, TWICE the size of the tiger, is just asking to get it's butt kicked. 
 
And that's EXACTLY what will happen.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:37 PM by Jayson
Jayson is right on in his statements. I’ve also read reports from reliable sources, before the internet, about polar bears swimming great distances. Can we agree that swimming takes much more stamina than walking or running?
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:18 PM by Bubba Bear
One thing is certain. Practically every nature documentary about the big cats tell the same tell. Big cats have very limited stamina. However, bears are well known for their great stamina.  
 
Polar bears do, however, have a problem with over-heating ( as odd as it may sound ) but true. But, the big cat is likely to become exhausted before the bear overheats.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:33 PM by Toby
And Zack, for the record, you need to show the Walrus a little more respect. A bull Walrus can weigh well over 3,000 lbs and is protected by a thick skin that covers layer of blubber. They have huge Tusks that can inflict mortal injuries. Yes, they're slow, but then, they don't HAVE to be fast.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:39 PM by Jayson
Polar bears can swim for long distances, because the freezing water keeps them from not over-heatig. They don't run for a long time on land, because they over-heat surprisingly quickly: 
 
http://www.seaworld.org/infobooks/polarbears/pbadaptations.html 
 
http://carnivoraforum.com/index.cgi?board=interspecific&action=display&thread=2773 
 
Taipan has more knowledge about mammals than every person on this site combined. 
 
Toby, intelligence has nothing to do with this. It's called EXPERIENCE. Tigers deal with Brown bears and know how to kill them, to encircle them untill an oppertunity from behind 
 
But with the Polar bears overheating quickly, they will have an easier time to tire them out 
 
I stay with my statement, in an enclosed area the Bear wins, in a natural encounter the tiger wins.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:41 PM by Zack
Polars bears are very much prone to overheating - even when walking too much, let alone fighting. This is even more true with global warming.  
 
Yes people, every one on Carnivora agrees. 
 
http://carnivoraforum.com/index.cgi?board=interspecific&action=display&thread=2773
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:43 PM by Zack
Tigers hunt brown bear sows most of which are much smaller than the tiger. But, even a brown bear sow is stronger than the tiger. So, he must ambush the bear.  
 
So many people believe that intelligence has nothing top do with fighting. I am both an X-marine and an X-soldier / Viet Nam veteran. Stupid people are the first ones killed.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:46 PM by Toby
Zack, Tigers are ambush hunters. There is no way they would take on a Brown Bear, certainly not a full-grown male, and probably not a Sow either. It may take that approach with a very young and very small Bear, maybe. 
 
But the Tiger is a solitary animal. It cannot afford to get injured trying to take down something as dangerous as a Bear, unless it was by ambush. Faced head on, the Tiger will look for easier prey. 
 
Everybody knows this. 
 
well, almost everybody.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:47 PM by Jayson
Jayson 
Tiger do in fact prey mostly on the younger bears but there are also those tigers that were able to drive away a mother brown bear from her cubs and we both know how dangerous that is as mother sow are known to fight to the death for their cubs. But for some reason these sow ran away form the tigers and lost their cubs to them.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:37 PM by Larry
Toby you still post that stupid list again about intelligence, I see you have a listening problem.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:42 PM by Larry
I stay with the fact that in an enclosed area the Bear will win. But in the open wild the tiger will win. More stanima + More manuverable. Anyway I am done with bear vs tiger threats 
 
People temd to ignore my ponts. Here is another one: 
 
 
 
http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/tigerpredationonbears.htm 
 
 
 
Hornocker and Quigley bring their great experience with North American mountain lions to their Siberian tiger investigations. Earlier, on the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, Hornocker discovered that a single female cougar had acquired a taste for wild sheep and alone was endangering the desert bighorns living on the range. Recently on the Sikhote-Alin Biosphere Reserve, he and Quigley discovered a similar situation. A 400-pound (180 kg) male Siberian tiger had developed an even stranger preference for just one prey: brown bears. Although red deer and other game were readily avaiable, this cat stalked and ate bears almost twice as heavy as itself. The biologists tracked the tiger through the snow to eight separate bear kills, all of which seemed to have been accomplished without great effort, except one. In that kill, there was evidence of a vicious battle with bits of bear hide strewn over a wide area, but the tiger had won."  
 
 
 
Not that it matters, anyway I'm out.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:44 PM by Zack
Zack cats have by far the worst stamina of hunters, when it comes to stamina a cat cannot compete with a any bear or a cannid all the cat (and by cat I mean big cat) can do is watch and dream. 
Indeed tigers have hunted and succssfully kill brown bears I remember one case where a male tiger was only half the size of a brown bear once and had still manage to kill the bear. 
But I do believe what you have is just predation. 
The bear is just minding his business and not expecting anything to happen, his guard is down so he cannot properly defend himself against the sneaky tiger.
Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:58 PM by Larry
Larry. Yes, it has been reported that a Siberian Tiger has, on very rare occasions, driven a Sow Brown Bear away from her cubs, but to be honest, I find it somewhat hard to believe. 
 
I think it's more likely that the Tiger had already ambushed and killed a Cub, and then just protected it's kill. 
 
Has there been any eye-witnesses to the Tiger actually driving the Sow away? 
 
I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying I have a hard time wrapping my head around it. 
 
As a solitary animal, the Tiger just can't, and usually take a chance on tackling anything just as big, and capable of inflicting serious, and even mortal injuries, unless it was desparately hungry. 
 
Big male Brown Bears, will drive Tigers away from their kills, something Zack just doesn't want to admit. 
 
What do almost all predators respect? 
 
Bigger predators. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:59 AM by Jayson
Larry, the only reason I posted the list again is because Zack forgot where the tiger stands.  
 
Zack, Siberian tigers hunt brown bear sows which are only half the size of a boar. Even these, the tiger must ambush. Even the sow is pysically superior to the big cat. On very rare occasions, a tiger has killed big boar brown bears during their Winter sleep. 
 
In the early Spring, when bears come out of hibernation, the brown bears are in need of protein. As Jayson pointed out, these bears hunt tigers and wolves, so as to take their fresh kills. Nearly always, the tiger retreats and gives up his kill. The brown bear dominates in a face-off.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:19 AM by Toby
I will add to this, that after Winter sleep, the brown bear is at his weakest. He is about 50% of his normal weight and very weak ( for a brown bear ). And this is when these ultimate carnivores hunt tigers. These very weakened bears, with their stomachs growling in hunger, dominate the tigers.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:43 AM by Toby
The big cats are ambush predators. Even in a face-off, the tiger must turn this fight into an ambush to win. This is why I claim that the polar bear will only win 80% of the time. The tiger, in about 2 out of 10 fights, might succeed.  
 
But, in a REAL face-off, where the tiger and the polar bear go head-to-head and fight it out, the odds change. The polar bear, in a REAL face-off, will win 100% of the fights.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:07 AM by Toby
Jayson 
I'm not sure there if an eyewitness account of this but where I had got the information stated than it as happen before, and I'm sure it has, tigers charge head on at elephants head on one Bengal tiger was named Charger because of this. so I'm sure it will do the same with sows. 
But mostly tigers prefer the cubs and young and immature bears but have and will go after adult bears regardless of gender especially when their common prey item deers and wild boars are scares. I've never heard of bears hunting wolves but where ever Siberian tigers and timber wolves co exist tigers do a lot of surplus killing to the wolves. 
But indeed tiger will give up there kills at least 90% of the time to male bears. This is because a tiger can obtain a serious injury from the bear while defending its kill and this injury can impair its hunting abilities. 
There have also been only two accounts of male bears killing and eating Siberian tigers, If I an find it again I will post the link the tigers that were killed and eaten by the bear where both males but they where said to be underweight and both of course where killed by the same bear near a river if I remember correctly.  
Toby yes big cats aren't smart but hyenas are just as smart as chimps and I believe I gave you some information about this already, The list you seem to have is made up of your opinion and not true facts so I would appreciate it if the hyena was moved up right under if not beside the apes. 
Where a face of is concerned as some here stated already I believe it was one of the early comments big cats regardless of size, sex health will lose most if not all the time to polar, Kodiak, coastal and Russian brown bears.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:23 AM by Larry
This is ridiculous no big cat regardless of size, health, species stands absolutely no chance against a polar bear, the only way a big cat could win was unless the polar bear was the same size of the cat and that would be unfair for it would be a juvenile bear. 
 
Posted @ Sunday, August 08, 2010 6:24 PM by maiel  
 
This was the guy. 
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM by Larry
Larry. Hyenas are indeed intelligent carnivores. They are listed in the top 10 smartest mammals equal with the big cats. But NO, they are not on an equal ranking with the great apes. Who told you that? You are trying to say that a hyena is smarter than a whale or dolphin? 
 
Bears are the smartest carnivores. Do your own resaearch. 
 
And, if a tigr was to go head to head in a confrontation with a polar bear, it will recieve more than just injuries. The polar bear would kill the tiger...easily.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:49 AM by Toby
And, if a tigr was to go head to head in a confrontation with a polar bear, it will recieve more than just injuries. The polar bear would kill the tiger...easily.  
I did agree with this did i not? 
re over and understand would you please. 
Please which my last post sentence. 
I gave you this already and read it and tell me what it says 
 
http://www.galenfrysinger.com/south_africa_kruger_hyena.htm  
 
And just in case you do not take a look here-  
'Hyenas are highly intelligent animals, and some scientists claim they are of equal intelligence to certain apes. One indication of hyena intelligence is that they will move their kills closer to each other to protect them from scavengers; another indication is their strategic hunting methods.'  
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2346515/  
 
 
'However, hyenas appear to rely more intensively than primates on social facilitation and simple rules of thumb in social decision making. No evidence to date suggests that hyenas are capable of true imitation. Finally, it appears that the gross anatomy of the brain in spotted hyenas might resemble that in primates with respect to expansion of frontal cortex, presumed to be involved in the mediation of social behaviour.'  
 
I hate to use Wikipedia but here also  
 
'Compared to other hyenas, spotted hyenas show a greater relative amount of frontal cortex exclusive to motor control functions. Studies strongly suggest convergent evolution in spotted hyena and primate intelligence.[6] A study done by evolutionary anthropologists demonstrated that spotted hyenas outperform chimpanzees on cooperative problem-solving tests: captive pairs of spotted hyenas were challenged to tug two ropes in unison to earn a food reward, successfully cooperating and learning the maneuvers quickly without prior training. Experienced hyenas even helped inexperienced clan-mates to solve the problem. In contrast, chimps and other primates often require extensive training, and cooperation between individuals is not always as easy for them.'
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:12 AM by Larry
Read the very last paragraph and tell me what you understand form it.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:13 AM by Larry
laelaps.wordpress.com/2007/07/03/are-you-smarter-than-a-hyena/ 
 
www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/hyena.html 
 
www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04iht-hyena.1.10685736.html 
 
YES, I have been researching too. You are right that hyenas are incredibly smart. My "list" goes back to about the year 2000. But, I have read about the hyenas highly organized social structure. But nowhere does it claim that the hyena is the smartest carnivore, much less chimpanzee intelligence. But yes, this would put the hyena further up the ladder. But, the bear is the smartest carnivore.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:22 AM by Toby
www.all-creatures.org/bear/b-bearintel.html 
 
Bear intelligence includes: Cognition and reasoning, Tool use, Self awareness, Sense of beauty, and Altruism...as well as healing as is being learned with the new science, Zoopharmacognosy.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:42 AM by Toby
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTIgrg97PE
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:56 AM by Toby
I never said that the hyena was the smarter carnivore, where did you get that from? Please tell me. 
 
And I see you lack birds which I can name a few that use tools in the wild and captivity.Your site claims that bears use tools but birds do also why aren't they on the list also? 
http://www.stanford.edu/group/stanfordbirds/text/essays/Tool_Using.html 
 
Toby the site claims that bears have an equivalent intelligence of a 3-year-old human. This site says that dogs are close to three year humans 2.5 years to be exact so why aren't dogs exactly beneath bears on this list? 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090810025241.htm  
 
 
That list you have, what was the study that was conducted to come to those conclusions? 
Can you give me a link? 
 
 
Oh BTW your fist two links aren't working for me. 
 
And also what test/study that has been done so for to compare bears and hyenas where intelligence are concerned, do you have a link for that?
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:35 PM by Larry
http://www.all-creatures.org/bear/b-bearintel.html 
 
'CONCLUSION 
 
Is any of this true or for certain? Can any of it be firmly proven by science? It can't be said, and probably can't be proven or certified in the mind of any objectively rational scientist. It might even be redundant and pointless to speculate all of this, as intelligence is such an immensely complex, multifaceted realm that we still know very, very little about, I don't want to be misleading anyone here. Intelligence is certainly NOT something that can just be measured like body temperature, and an IQ number is just totally irrelevant. Some people might even say that most animals are "smarter" than us, because there are so many things about life they know about that we have forgotten, and so many things we can't understand or comprehend that they can. Bears can't compose rap music or invent an atomic bomb, but they can create mental maps better than we can. In what other ways would they surprise us if we could truly peer into their minds? When it all comes down to it, when all of this is put into consideration, how can anyone measure something as immeasurable as intelligence so rashly? Do we even have any idea what intelligence really is? 
 
...Are we not just dumb animals ourselves, a bunch of cranium-scratching primates still trying to figure all of this out? Perhaps the only one that really has his mind around things is a force greater and higher than all of us...' 
 
How did you come about that list when the site you gave about the bears clearly states that intelligence cannot be measured? 
What study was conducted?
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:38 PM by Larry
Hmm Toby also given the fact that more test have been done to compare the intelligence of hyenas to chimps and bears to chimps,in which the hyena did better than the chimp shouldn't the hyena be consider smarter than the bear if hyenas are closer to being equivalent in intelligence as chimps and smarter than many other apes?
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:59 PM by Larry
Studies even suggest that hyena cooperate more easily than chimps. 
 
http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1206-tritt_hyena.html 
 
Now don't get me wrong hyenas are better at doing certain things better that chimps and other great apes, just some not all.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:02 PM by Larry
Jeff seems to agree  
 
http://www.helium.com/items/925038-animal-facts-hyena
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:05 PM by Larry
Oh my mistake for asking about the birds ignore that part I forgot it was a mammal only list, my bad. 
Also what test was done to show that bears are intelligent as elephants?
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:24 PM by Larry
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/animalfaceoff/game/play.html 
 
 
 
i dont know iff this is true or not but its a discovory channel animal face off game. animal exsperts have don there reserch on the animals and have desided who would win. iff you go on there and selekt the lion 450-570 pounds and put it up aganst the brown bear up to 1 600 pounds it says the lion will win. 
 
but they say the siberian tiger will lose to the brown. 
 
so i have a hard time beliving but hey there exsperts you never know 
 
i dont no iff i belive it but it is the exsperts take a look all
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:57 PM by brady
Brady animal face off also put a karate chopping gorilla in their show so no I would say that it's just for fun and cash not only are bears bigger and stronger than cats they also have way more stamina so I stand by this 
Where a face off is concerned as some here stated already I believe it was one of the early comments big cats regardless of size, sex health will lose most if not all the time to polar, Kodiak, coastal and Russian brown bears.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:39 PM by Larry
If they were truly experts then they would know how these animal fight, but most of the time they only compared hunting methods, and size was also wrong for most of the animals they matched up, like the Siberian tiger's size was way off.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:44 PM by Larry
I have read lots of books and watched a lot of nature documentaries over the course of 60+ years. No, I do not keep records of my info. The best I can tell you is, IF you are truely interested in Mammal Intelligence, then do your own research. As I have. I was WRONG about the hyena. This is not the first mistake I've made on this site. 
 
Kinda like war ( the mother of invention ). I have learned a great deal from these ( friendly ) arguments. But, I am 100% certain ( at least in my mind ) that the brown bear is the ultimate carnivore...smartest and strongest. 
 
( have a new respect for the hyena too ).
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:38 PM by Toby
Well Toby everyone as their own opinion about the animals they love, like wolf lovers they say wolves are gods and magical and strong and holy but I won't get into that. 
 
But here where facts are needed something the creators lacks, its always good to back up what you say with facts, if its your opinion they its okay to say so, no harm done. 
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:51 PM by Larry
This knowledge are not just from my love of the brown bear. In fact, my favorite animal is the gorilla ( first animal I go to see at the zoo ). No. This is indeed from years of reading as well as nature documentaries. IF you will actually take the time, I am sure that you will reach the same conclusions. I have read in numerous sources that bears are the most intelligent and the strongest of all carnivores. 
 
How many people keep notes? I read and I learn. I was doing this long before computers entered the public.  
 
Larry, if you really want to know about carnivore intelligence, then research it yourself. I find that there is more crap than info on a computer.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:59 PM by Toby
Toby I have done research but most of what I come across are just estimates and conclusion given with actually no real conducted studies, for instance animal face off 
They say a lion would kill a brown bear 9/10 times, even going as far to say that the lion would circle the bear and attack a weak spot. 
What do they think the bear would just stand still and allow the lion to jump on his back...and they call themselves experts. 
A lot of crap is on the net I agree to than but many many many areas have made conclusions with no actual study done to support how they came to that conclusion. 
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:09 PM by Larry
'intelligent and the strongest of all carnivores.'  
I think you mean all land carnivores, I'm sure killer whales are just as many times stronger and just as if not more intelligent that the bear.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:17 PM by Larry
One thing I find interesting is that all of those saying that a lion or a tiger can kill an adult male brown bear in a face-off, automatically tries to find a way to turn the fight into a stealthy ambush attack. As far as I am concerned, a face-off means going head-to-head with your opponent.  
 
But then, with the big cat knowing that the bear is indeed too powerful for a frotal attack, he would attempt to circle around the bear for an ambush. But, this is where intelligence plays a major role. The bear is smart enough to figure out what the lion or tiger is up to. 
 
I know that you and 90% of everyone else doesn't believe that bears are smart carnivores. But, I know better.  
 
 
 
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:18 PM by Toby
By carnivore, I am speaking of Carnivora. Of course, recently, the pinnipeds have been added to this order, so perhaps you are right... terrestrial carnivores.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:21 PM by Toby
Toby bears are smart animals but just as how a chimp's intelligence would not save it from a hungry leopard I do think a bear wouldn't rely much on smarts to win this fight.  
 
I'm sure if a bear attempted to circle a potential prey ( yes bear do not need to do this but I'm just saying)item deers or mosses I'm sure that the mosses would also figure it out if its not to scared and decides to run. 
I've seen buffaloes use this against lions, they keep the cats in front until the herd arrives with help.
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:25 PM by Larry
Here again is where I disagree with about 90% of everyone. I believe that intelligence plays a major roll in a fight. If that chimpanzee is smart enough to use a heavy enough stick, and smart enough to make enough noise to stress the leopard, he just might bluff the leopard and escape.  
 
A bull charges a bear with his head down running in a stright line. The bear can easily avoid the horns. This fight might play out differently if the bull was as smart as the bear. 
 
When you are in a fight, everything that you are is in that fight. Quite often, it is not the stronger man who wins, but the smarter.  
 
 
 
Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:34 PM by Toby
Is there noone here to defend the tiger? 
 
I just proved that my theory, as I knew was right, is indeed the truth. A brown bear, at equal body length with a lion or a tiger, is nearly double the big cat's weight. Brutus is a normal grizzly. He is not obese. He is not a freak. He is absolutely normal. Brutus is 6 feet long, 44 inches at the shoulders, 7 feet 8 inches standing bipedal, and weighs 800 pounds. A lion 6 feet in body length weighs roughly 420 pounds. You can see Brutus at this site. Take the time to explore and see Brutus at: 
 
scienceblogs.com/observations/2009/04/i-wish-my-best-friend-were-as-cool-as-brutus.php
Posted @ Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:04 PM by Toby
Polar bear pros: 
 
- Bigger (Average weight for males is about 950- 1,100lbs) 
 
- Physically capable of pulling more weight (pulling 3 ton walruses) 
 
- Thicker skin and fur (to decrease affect of blows) 
 
- More powerful shoulder/ forelimb muscles 
 
- More stamina 
 
 
 
Polar bear cons: 
 
- One of the more docile bear species (may group together to feed) 
 
- More sluggish 
 
 
 
 
 
Siberian tiger: 
 
- More agile 
 
- More aggressive (big cats have the most testosterone of all the Carnivorans) 
 
- Retractable claws (can cling onto the bear’s pelt) 
 
- Can jump higher 
 
- Stronger back legs and more elastic spinal column 
 
 
 
Siberian tiger cons: 
 
- Lower stamina 
 
- Not as large (Average weight for males is about 425- 475lbs) 
 
- Not as much protective coating 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The key factor here is aggressiveness. The tiger may be physically weaker and smaller, but has more aggression imprinted into his/her genes. Still the fight results in a 60%, which goes to the bear. If this were a Kodiak bear, the percentage of the bear winning would be higher, because Kodiaks are a subspecies of brown bears, and brown bears are currently one of the most aggressive bear species on the planet- Kodiaks are larger than a grizzly bear (Grizzly [male- without winter fat]: 450- 500lbs/ Kodiak [male- without winter fat]: 650-750lbs).  
 
 
 
Imagine a grizzly, but 1.5xs larger..... 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
P.S.- Pleasant seeing you around, Toby. This site hasn't had an active comments box for a while; or was it just my computer?
Posted @ Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:09 PM by MrAlien123456
Read "What is a polar bear"? in the box at: 
 
evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/100401_polarbears
Posted @ Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:59 AM by Toby
In a face-off, with no place to hide, the tiger will loose 90% of the fights. The big cat has about a 20% chance of manuvering around and leaping onto the bear's back. From this advantage point, the tiger has a 50% chance of survival.
Posted @ Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:03 AM by Toby
im a pussy. i have no friends at all. i hate my life. cuz i have man tits.  
see you guys later ima go finger my pussy whole. i lick my own ass hole all the time. i should jus kill myself right now!  
im the gay kid who sits alone at lunch at school. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:51 PM by east95
The tiger is bigger and stronger than a lion. But, the tiger cannot take on a polar bear or a brown bear. This tiger is out of his league.
Posted @ Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:00 AM by Toby
This is moronic. 
 
 
 
The tiger is a kitten next to the polar bear. 
 
 
 
One swipe of that paw and the tiger is broken in half. 
 
 
 
The polar bear is the most terrible land predator on the face of the earth. The tiger is no match at all for the mighty bear.
Posted @ Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:50 PM by Riley
The Kodiak bear, Kamchatka brown bear, or a coastal grizzly could kill a polar bear in a face-off.
Posted @ Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:16 PM by Toby
haha,too biased,and full of lies and ignorance,yes tigers do occasionally kill brown bears,usually pregnant females or young/wounded ones,but a Polar bear,boy,wake up,a polar bear is so much larger and stronger,than any tiger,that the result should be known by anyone with a brain;1-tiger claws are useless against the thick fur and skin of the bear 
2-bear would just give one wipe and tiger is dead with broken head or back and 3-tiger would never be able to kill an adult polar bear.End 
(This said I love tigers,amazing they are,but-Lets get real
Posted @ Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:28 PM by Demonicboy
LOL you can't be serious with this fight^^ the tiger loses and you know it - he has really no advantages against the bear, one swipe and he's dead. That bears are usual prey of tigers is wrong, they fight very rare and only if there is no other way - and some times the tiger wins, that's the only proofed point. And polar bears are the strongest and biggest bears of all so a tiger really can't win. A tiger hasn't even the record of muscle mass, the lion has the record with 57-60% for mammals of his size - and tigers are nearly the same size.
Posted @ Monday, September 13, 2010 2:53 PM by Leo
The notion that the polar bear is the world's biggest bear is popular. Actually, the polar bear ties with the Kodiak bear. There is simply not enough size difference to choose one over the other. The same holds true for the Siberian tiger and the Bengal tiger. They are basically the same size, but both bigger than a lion. 
 
The Kodiak, Kamchatka, and the coastal grizzly are ALL stronger than their close relative, the polar bear. 
 
Some naturalists are now wanting to change the name of the polar bear from Ursus maritimus to Ursus arctos maritimus. Because they are too closely related and are not genetically 2 seperate species.
Posted @ Monday, September 13, 2010 4:27 PM by Toby
I am a big Tiger fan, but this is stupid. I know that bears and tigers/lions have been pitted against each other in the early 20th/late 19th century and the bear always won.  
 
The bear is simply to strong and apparently would cruch the lion/tiger skull in a single blow. Lets not let bias change the restlu. Coolest animal must be the Tiger but in a fight it would stand no chance.
Posted @ Friday, September 24, 2010 10:52 AM by Jaga
Exactly, Jaga. 
 
 
 
The tiger is a nice mid-sized predator, but the polar bear (like the brown bear, which I agree belongs to the same actual species) is a giant. A lightweight can't beat a heavyweight if the heavyweight can fight.
Posted @ Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:14 PM by Mister
The polar bear is larger and more powerful, but the Siberian Tiger is faster and mobile. Tough fight, but I think that the polar bear eventually won, although I am cheering for the Siberian tiger.
Posted @ Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:15 AM by Siberian tiger
There's a lot of retarded people here spewing opinions based on nothing. 
 
The fact is, Siberian tigers are well known to eat black and brown bears. Bears make up 5-8% of a Siberian tiger's diet. 
 
Brown bears are on average roughly the same size as a polar bear. 
 
Keep in mind that when Siberian tigers hunt bears they do so by surprise attacks from above, jumping on their backs and biting the neck to kill them instantly. 
 
If they faced off face to face, who knows, but the fact is, Siberian tigers regularly eat bears. 
 
This is all well documented, if you don't believe me, go look it up before saying something stupid.
Posted @ Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:06 PM by Anonymous
First of all, anonymous, there has never been any record of Tigers hunting full sized, male Brown Bears, and you can't produce any that says differently. 
 
Second, you forgot to tell us that Brown Bears also track Tigers to take away their kills, and in such encounters, the Tiger almost always backs off. 
 
A full grown male Tiger, simply cannot take a full grown male Brown Bear. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:37 PM by Jayson
And BTW anonymous, The Brown Bear, makes up around 1-1.5% of the Tigers diet (undersized males, sows or cubs), with the much smaller Asiatic Black Bear making up the bulk of that 5-8% 'Brown Bear" diet of the Siberian Tiger. 
 
You need to try harder in getting your facts straight.
Posted @ Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:48 PM by Jayson
even if the tiger is strong and fast.the polar bear is just too big!a tiger maybe able to kill animals bigger than itself,but the polar bear can kill smaller prey with its strengh.a tiger would be scared to fight an animal that is so big and have just as much weapons as itself
Posted @ Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:01 PM by
don't get so over confident look how fast tiger dog lion.DIG IT?
Posted @ Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:20 AM by adam
The only way a Tiger can take down a Polar Bear is by surprise.. and thats gotta be the weakest Polar Bear ever... 
 
 
 
The truth is that the Polar bear is built like a tank and can take most attacks that the Tiger can throw at him.. while the Tiger is a much more fragile creature, designed for stealth and quickness... 
 
 
 
face to face not a chance the tiger takes it..
Posted @ Friday, November 12, 2010 12:50 PM by Miguel Sanchez
I believe that the tigers can kill most any thing that is moving and i ALSO think that as well as any other wild animal like the wolfs can kill other wild animals as well as the big cats like the black panther and the the mountain lion as well as the other large animals like the elephants who are afraid of mice as well. from wendy semlls
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Posted @ Monday, November 29, 2010 3:17 PM by BrotherBear
tiger can kill polar bear easily.because tiger is most powerfull preateator on the earth.don't see the wt of bear see the quickness of big cat.my final answer is tiger win any time any where!
Posted @ Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:29 AM by tiger fan
The Siberian tiger would use his agility and speed to RUN AWAY FROM THE POLAR BEAR, lol (and i am being serious)!!!
Posted @ Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:06 PM by Anonymous
I'm a Marine Biologist, so I know of which I speak (although I am admittedly biased). The polar bear is simply too powerful for any tiger. The bear is easily twice the size of the tiger and would make short work in this fictional fight. I've seen video of a polar bear ripping a large seal out of a hole in the ice by the snout, and literally separating the bones and muscle of the seal from the skin and blubber - instant death. If the polar bear were able to get off ONE swipe like this on the tiger, the tiger would be immediately immobilized, allowing the bear to easily overtake it.
Posted @ Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:22 PM by marinebio
I study on bengal as well as siberian tiger from few year.tiger can kill any animal on the earth except of full grown elephant.why you say bear kill tiger?tiger is not any seal.it has 2.5 inch canains.which has capable to kill polar bear.
Posted @ Friday, December 10, 2010 12:15 AM by dinesh
siberian tiger are verry tall and long for a big cat. there fast powerfull and have long canine teeth. 
 
on the other hand were talking about a polar bear witch can be huge. claw for claw the polar bears got the advantege. but iff tigers hunt and kill russin brown bear then iff polars and tigers lived in the same area a tiger would probly hunt them as prey. 
 
face to face the tigers only chance to win is to bite the back of the neck and sever the spinal cord with its long canins. 
 
iff the tigers hunting the bear then the tiger is mostly gona win. ambushing the bear leaping onto its back and biting the neck. 
 
so this truly is the battle of the titans
Posted @ Friday, December 10, 2010 5:38 AM by brooks
If Tiger was ambush it could kill the bear in face off bear kill tiger.If bear catch the tiger it could easily kill tiger.In water the bear could easily kill the tiger.
Posted @ Friday, December 10, 2010 9:47 AM by mukul sharma
well the tiger has more speed than a bear and there is noway that a bear can catch a strong tiger a tiger does more hunting than a bear the bear is weak compear to a tiger so stop saying bear.
Posted @ Friday, December 10, 2010 10:18 AM by breon
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Posted @ Friday, December 10, 2010 12:07 PM by BrotherBear
It doesn't matter how fast the tiger is, the bear is just WAY too large for it to be able to win. The bear's paw swipe, massive claws, grappling ability, and shear size (something like twice as big on average) should win the day.
Posted @ Friday, December 17, 2010 6:31 PM by MellivoraCapensis
lol why are people talking about lions? this is a tiger fight retards dont tell me that schama lion fanboy dude has got all you up late at night jizzing over lions. a tiger would kill a lion easy peasy just to to sheer size and muscles. and i would put my money on the tiger to win against the polar bear.
Posted @ Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:01 AM by duuuude
it is like i have never seen the the tiger and polar bear.From your discusions,it apppears what is being said is hypothetical.I suggest that the Zoologists should one time set the two animals to a fight and we see the winner.
Posted @ Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:41 AM by enock
Tiger vs Lion = Tiger 
 
Tiger vs Polar Bear = Bear
Posted @ Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:33 PM by BrotherBear
Anyone with a brain would know that the Siberian Amur Tiger, although able to kill huge Red Deer and large Asiatic Black Bears, is no match for a full grown Polar Bear. Even though Polar Bears can grow up to 1500 lbs, they are surprisingly agile. In every scenario you can imagine, the Polar Bear comes out on top. Even if the tiger is stalking the bear, the bear's superior sense of smell could give away the tiger's position.
Posted @ Monday, December 27, 2010 5:26 PM by Luke
Zack, 
 
No tiger on the entire planet Earth could charge at 50 MPH. More like 35-38 MPH.  
 
And no Polar Bear has been recorded taking a full grown 3,000 lb healthy bull Walrus. Just like NO SIBERIAN AMUR TIGER HAS BEEN SEEN TAKING A FULL GROWN 3,500 LB HEALTHY BULL GAUR. 
 
And do you know how much fat and fur a Polar Bear has? Certainly too much for a tiger's claws to penetrate.
Posted @ Monday, December 27, 2010 5:50 PM by Luke
theres no profe cuze its comonsens. the tiger will brobly try and avode a fight when the king male lion in a pride is a formitable opponint to anny predator that threetens the pride. 
 
 
 
in the real world the lion is the king of all predators becuze of the pride. no bear would stand a chance one lion can put up a fight but is likly to win aganst a polar or the larger grizzlys like the russin or kodeak but in there pride there unstopable
Posted @ Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:12 PM by brady
It would only take a slap in the face for the Polar bear to defeat a Siberian tiger. 
 
 
 
The Polar bear is the largest land carnivore on the planet and the only animal (land carnivore) that stands a chance against a Polar bear is another Polar bear. 
 
 
 
Polar bear easily wins.
Posted @ Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:42 AM by Anonymous
lol this website is BS mostly everything here is wrong  
 
 
 
a black bear beating a lion? bull shit  
 
a bull beating a grizzly? Bull shit  
 
a komodo beating a gator? lol thats complete shit 
 
and tiger beating polar bear wow thats completely impossible  
 
and the worst of all is a tiger beating a male lion, male lions are built to fight off other male lions and hyenas all their life while the females are the hunting in groups LIONS PWN TIGERS!! 
 
POLAR BEARS PWN SIBERIAN TIGERS
Posted @ Monday, January 24, 2011 2:22 PM by lol
The largest Polar Bear shot was 2210 lbs. but 1,800 to 2,000 specimens are not uncommon. The largest Tigers can weigh 660 lbs. I don't think a Tiger could do much to a Polar Bear. I think the Tiger would use it agility to run like hell in the opposite direction.
Posted @ Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:30 PM by Bruce Darby
I don't why this is even a comparison. Why do people really think that if a sports car crashes into a bulldozer the sports car would still be drivable.. 
 
 
 
Think about it people, the tiger would run away so fast with its tail between its legs that it'd make a cheetah look slow. 
 
 
 
Alright do the math.. 1500lbs killer bear very 600lbs killer cats.. I don't know seems like a no brainer. 
 
 
 
Tank vs Car.. hmmm.. yeah..  
 
 
 
Maybe if the tiger brought its bitch to the fight they both might win, but either way one of the tigers is gonna die from injuries sustained.. and that the Brandon Vera..
Posted @ Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:07 AM by Miguel Sanchez
The setting should be in Wyoming in winter.That way both animals have an equal knowledge of there surroundings.I think the tiger would win because of speed and strategy.My opinion.Your entitled to yours.
Posted @ Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM by Nciolas Gonzales
I am always a little confused when someones says "strategy" is a deciding factor when two predators face off. 
 
I understand "technique", both in hunting and fighting, although in fighting, I guess "style" is more descriptive, but I don't quite get "strategy". 
 
See, in every conflict I've ever seen between two animals, "strategy" has never been used, at least none that I can detect. The fight usually consists of one animal being more agressive, charging foward, trying to intimidate or inflict as much damage as possible. There is no trying to circle behind the other, that's a technique used in trying to bring down prey, or when a pack of animals have one animal, prey or enemy, cornered or surrounded. 
 
Watch two male lions or Bears fight. Once the intimidation doesn't work, it's just bite and claw as much as they can until one gives up. 
 
Now, it's one thing if one animal looks upon the other as prey, but "strategy" is used to catch the prey. Once the prey becomes aware of the predator, the "strategy" goes out the window. 
 
Quite simply, there won't be any time to devise a "strategy", between two testosterone charged predators. 
 
If everything else was equal, and unfortunately for the Tiger, it's not, the only deciding factor would be who could withstand the most damage while inflicting the deciding damage.
Posted @ Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:32 PM by jayson
I do stand corrected in one instance; in the animal kingdom, animals will use strategy in some fights. Bighorn sheep for instance, will always try to seek the higher ground, when fighting each other, although now that I think of it, this may not be "strategy" so much as is "instinct" or learned behavior. 
 
The same is true of Turtles and some insects, in that the "startegy" is to flip your opponet over on it's back. Is this "strategy"? 
 
It's hard to say. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:39 PM by Jayson
What I mean by strategy is how to fight this particular oppenent.When facing a gaur it will circle it and wait for it to make a mistake.It will use a different strategy to get a deer.I actually am sorry for not being descriptive.
Posted @ Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:48 PM by Nicolas Gonzales
Oh wait I stand corrected again.. I just realized out of my own stupidity that a Polar Bear weighs more than 2 times as much as a Siberian Tiger.. 
 
 
 
Strategy is useless, the Bear will win.. I'm an idiot.. 
 
 
 
Sorry..
Posted @ Friday, February 04, 2011 9:37 AM by Jayson
Oh I also forgot that a Siberian Tiger is twice as fast as a Polar Bear.I was just apologizing for my mistake.You are right it is technique I was thinking of.
Posted @ Friday, February 04, 2011 11:06 AM by Nicolas Gonzales
This used to be a pretty good site, but now it's full of immature kids who have nothing better to do then impersonate other posters. They're too stupid or afraid to make a point under their own names.  
 
So be it. I've better things to do, and better places to go. To Nicolas, again, what you're talking about is a Guar DEFENDING against an attack by the Tiger. 
 
The Polar Bear will not just wait and defend, it will attack. There won't be any time for the Tiger to try and circle behind the Bear. IF it happens, it would happen during the course of battle. And ANYTHING could happen. 
 
This is my last post. I'm not giving the idiot imposters the chance to get thier rocks off by responding to every little fake post they make under my name. 
 
Posted @ Friday, February 04, 2011 2:22 PM by Jayson
hmm 1700 pound bear or 650 pound amur tiger. If the tiger is hunting the bear it would have a chance at least 6 out out of 10. but if the bear can corner the tiger in front of it there is not much the tiger can do but try to bite the bear's paws. or if the tiger can bite the bear's nose it will hurt so much the bear will rechreat. or if the bear can swipe the tiger it is the sure winner. But scott lope thinks tigers will win
Posted @ Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:50 AM by dave salmoni
Thanks that is what I was trying to say.If they are in a forest a tiger will win because of cover.In tundra or if they are locked in a room the polar bear will win because the tiger won't be able to use its speed and the polar bear can use its higher strenght.
Posted @ Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:55 AM by Nicolas
well nicolas that is almost what i was trying to say. but the i was actually trying to say if the tiger can strike from behind and at the same time catch the bear of gaurd it would have a fairly high chance of winning. I have actually seen lions and brown bears in the same cage and the lions were stalking the bears and catching them while the least expect it. 
 
If the bear corners or pins the tiger and can sink its teeth into the cats neck the tiger doesn't stand half a chance.
Posted @ Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:03 AM by dave salmoni
Doesn't matter if the tiger ambushes the polar bear. The tiger will and can not kill a polar which is at least twice its size with just 1 blow. On the other hand the bear will and can kill the tiger with just a single blow.  
 
Think about it, it's almost like have a bobcat fight a black bear.  
 
 
 
Really, who do you think would win a bobcat or a black bear??
Posted @ Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:43 PM by Mayson
does it really matter whether its a grizzly or a polar bear fighting a siberian tiger? not really, either bear can kill this cat with next to no trouble, they have the size, weight and strength advantage over it on average and overall
Posted @ Monday, February 14, 2011 8:34 PM by lion man
The polar bear would destroy the kitty easily.
Posted @ Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:28 AM by Anonymous
Strictly going by raw power, instincts and intelligence, it is absolute stupidity to ask who would win in a Tiger (regardless of its subspecies) - Brown Bear fight. 
 
People argue that a tiger takes on a Guar, but guys, a tiger is generally an ambush hunter. It doesn't embark on a head-on collision with a Guar! 
 
Even if the heaviest of tiger did manage to get down a bear by momentum, it cannot sink its canines that easily in a bear's neck unless it has learned Tiger Style kung fu from Shaolin! 
 
Peronally, a fully grown big brown bear (and I am not even talking about a Kodiak bear which stands 10 to 12 feet!!!) will toy with a tiger or two!
Posted @ Monday, February 28, 2011 8:19 AM by Yearofthedragon
i would like to see a bear toy with two tigers comon ya bear would probly win head to head but put two into the fight i am going 100% behind the tiger. 
 
Posted @ Monday, February 28, 2011 7:40 PM by king of kings
It's nice to see that there is still so much interest this topic still. Looks like that asshole imposter is gone now.  
 
 
 
I'll be posting here again now. 
 
 
 
After talking to some of my smarter friends I've realized that the Polar Bear is just far to big and strong for a Tiger to take out.. 
 
 
 
Even head-to-head against 2 Tigers the Bear should and would be the favorite to win. Just too much size and strength.
Posted @ Friday, March 04, 2011 2:54 PM by Jayson
The bear would win, but it would be hurt, very hurt, and may day from the wounds. This is a tiger, the animal runs from nothing, it will attack it will be viscious.
Posted @ Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:58 PM by James
Siberian tigers are known to kill brown bears. However, those bears that get killed are usually cubs and occasionally adult sub-600 pound females.  
 
 
 
Furthermore, there are more cases of full-grown adult male brown bears killing any Siberian tiger. This happens when the bear is trying to steal food from the tiger and the tiger decides to fight for its food. Brown bears become very aggressive when they're hungry. 
 
 
 
Now imagine an aggressive Polar bear versus any aggressive Siberian tiger. Chances that the bear will lose are slim to non.
Posted @ Wednesday, March 16, 2011 8:18 AM by Anonymous
WRONG! If a big cat sees an animal as prey, chances are they will win. The will jump on the bear's back and try as hard as possible to go for the neck. If the tiger dosen't it will try raw power which it will lose
Posted @ Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:33 PM by out!
At out!: 
 
 
 
The bear's thick blubber and fur will protect it from major damage. When a Polar bear is hungry, it becomes very aggressive, and it would kill anything it pleases. And if the Polar bear bites the tiger to neck, it's over. I mean the Polar bear can take out a 1320 pound beluga whale out of the water with its strong jaws. The Polar bear would just destroy the Siberian kitty. 
 
Posted @ Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:12 AM by Anonymous
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Posted @ Sunday, March 20, 2011 7:32 AM by BrotherBear
And here comes another asshole, Jayson. 
Obviously tigers would win. They're heavier and bigger, although they're less agile than polar bears.The tiger is just just far to big and strong for a Tiger to take out..  
 
Even head-to-head against 2 polar bears the tiger should and would be the favorite to win. Just too much size and strength.
Posted @ Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:18 AM by Jayson
"The fight is over almost before it has started-" 
 
 
 
Whoever 'updated' this fight is completely out of his/her mind.
Posted @ Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:32 AM by Anonymous
It really depends. Face to face, bear would smash the tigers skull in one blow guys, get real. but as many said, if tiger was stealthing and had a chance to leap from behind while bear was busy or sleeping,etc,tiger may have a chance. just a chance, cause there is bears size and strengh is far higher than tigers. thats just how it is. tigerfans, but defo tiger would inflict great damage if given the chance.
Posted @ Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:13 PM by Diabolus
i think polar bear would win against Siberian tiger. because it has a huge body strength & they are unusually large. i have seen a polar bear pulled a large sea walrus that is nearly 2 tons.that is real true. in fighting between them, there is more than 80% chance that will go in favour of polar bear
Posted @ Saturday, April 30, 2011 3:12 PM by sudip banerjee
@faker Jayson. 
 
 
 
You are such a faggot, stop copying my post and shit and mocking me. You can suck my left nut(the good one) fucker! When I find you I'm gonna attack you like a Polar Bear would to a Siberian Tiger, then eat your children. 
 
 
 
Go home a eat your daddy's cock and leave this website alone.  
 
 
 
LOSER!
Posted @ Friday, May 13, 2011 11:44 AM by Jayson
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Posted @ Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:15 AM by BrotherBear
After thinking this over, I see it coming down to this: The bear has the size and strength advantage, hands down. But the cat would have the speed, agility, and weapon advantages. But first, let us realize that these animals would never engage in mortal combat in nature, since mortal combat in the wold is a lose/lose deal. The loser dies, and the winner is badly wounded and weakened to the point of endangering its own survival in the extreme. Second, any selected advantage on one side or the other would only be an average likelihood, with predators this high on the food chain, no outcome can be certain every time. Personally, I always side with speed, agility, and lethal weapons over size and strength, especially when other differences remain comparable. As another contributor has noted already, siberian tigers are used to preying on animals much larger than themselves, while polar bears are used to prey that they pretty much out-class in every category. Add to the mix that brown bears often fall prey to siberian tigers in the wild (for one reason or another) and I have to side with the cat in most instances. The propensities of each specie seems to favor the speed, agility, and slash-and-run ability of the cat. That's the best I can do.
Posted @ Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:27 PM by John Lody
A Siberian tiger would win. Keep in mind that black bears and brown bears are a semi-regular part of a Siberian tiger's diet. Polar bears are close relatives of brown bears with some cold weather adaptations. It's hard to see how any of those differences for a polar bear would make this fight any different from the completely one sided contest of Siberian tiger vs. brown bear.
Posted @ Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:15 AM by Ted Swing
50/50 percent chance the bear may be big but it,s slow and is not as muscular as a grizzly or a brown bear it,s not even that tough grizzlies drive is out there area a tiger can kill a grizzly and a brown bear so it can also kill a polar bear
Posted @ Monday, June 06, 2011 6:45 AM by tiger
and as far as bear smashing the tiger,s skull in one blow it will only happen if a tiger gets a blow the tiger will avoid the bear and get on top of it an bite it,s neck injuring it and finish it of with a neck bite 
Posted @ Monday, June 06, 2011 6:51 AM by sabih jamal
the polar bear would win for 3 reason 
1. the bear is physical more powerful and with a wider range of attack options due to more dexterousness arms.  
2. the tiger has little relevant actual bone strength in the same way as lions which was proven by fight in colonial america where they found that a grizzly bear would just easily smash through the lions skull 
3. even if the tiger manged to get a lethal bit and hold(its main technique) the bear still has the ability to kill it with its arms  
 
the tiger might be able to kill the bear if lucky but the bear would almost certainly take its opponent down with it
Posted @ Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:23 AM by ross
just to fill in with my first reason a very big tiger is about 320kg while an average sized male bear can be about 600kg if you think that a tiger because its more agile (which by the way is wrong as if anything the bear is quicker) try and imagine a fight between an 8st guy and 16st guy
Posted @ Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:39 AM by ross
first of all if strength really mattered in hunting the lions and tiger would not get any prey at all they are used to fight animals larger then them and secondly the the bear would only kill a tiger if it gets it,s hands on it the tiger is too fast for that and as far as your 16 guy vs 8 guy thing is concerned it is not a human fight a tiger will kill the bear with a neck bite
Posted @ Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:19 PM by tiger
a tiger would win 6 out of 10
Posted @ Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:21 PM by tiger
first of all the tiger wins it is faster,agile,has longer canines and has hunting experience and is more aggressive the bear has strength and claws the tigers are known to kill brow2n bears and black bears and sloth bears the brown bear may be smaller then a polar but it is more muscular the tiger can also take down the grizzly bear .the grizzly bear drive the polar out of it,s areas and is more muscular and can take a polar bear out as well. the polar bear are just big the are not as muscular as the others and are not used to fighting.a tiger has a deadly weapon of the throat bite it can damage the nervous system of the bear and has powerful claws the tigers hunts black brown bear elk moose sloth bear and buffalos gaurs water buffalo and crocodiles . tigers can even rarely kill rhinos. there have been a report of a tiger killing a mother elephant and her cup.even on ragular bases the tigers are known to kill animals 2 to 3 times there size just because the polar bear is big does not mean it will win. it will lose on 6 out of ten times.
Posted @ Friday, June 17, 2011 9:21 AM by sabih jamal
this is how the fight will start the tiger and the bear will come face to face the tiger will show aggression the bear will run the tiger will go after is if the bear realize it has no choice but to fight it thy to take the tiger out with it,s claws the tiger will be to fast it will move around the bear and injure it with it,s claws and get on top of it it will hang on to it with it,s claws and the neck bite the bear will scream and go down even if it does gets the tiger of it,s self the damage will be done the bears ,s nerves system will be damaged it will be losing consiousness and tiger will do the neck bite again thee bear will go down the tiger will turn it around if it,s not dead and do the neck bite in the lower throat and the bear will be dead
Posted @ Friday, June 17, 2011 9:34 AM by tiger
its not a 6 year guy versus the 15 guy it,s like a sumo vs a martial artist by the way
Posted @ Friday, June 17, 2011 9:37 AM by tiger
@tiger 
 
Actually the fight would go like this: 
 
The tiger charges towards the bear teath bared when the bear swings its paw and the tiger's head is then seen rolling across the ground as the bear roars in victory.
Posted @ Friday, June 17, 2011 9:38 PM by Bear
no it does not the fight goes like the one i told the tiger eats the bear
Posted @ Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:46 AM by sabih jamal
you are making it sound like it sound like it,s a cheetha versus a bear
Posted @ Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:51 AM by sabih jamal
At Bear: 
 
No. The fight wouldn't go like that because the tiger would use its agility and speed to run away from the Polar bear.  
 
Seriously guys, the bears that Siberian tigers kill are usually sub-adults. But a Polar bear is just a colossal. It is more than twice the size of a Siberian tiger!
Posted @ Saturday, June 18, 2011 7:43 PM by Anonymous
the bears are not sub adults they are adult bears who are killed by a tiger. for crying out loud the size doesn,t matters very much the tiger win 6 out of 10 and a polar bear is not even that muchof a colossel it rearly ever kills a walrus or a whale
Posted @ Monday, June 20, 2011 11:42 AM by sabih jamal
the tiger kills gaurs 4 times it,s size the bear could not even kill a walrus twice the size and slow the polar bear is pound to pound weaker then tigers and even brown bears and the tiger has a stronger paw force then any bear and a bit force the bear is rarely twice the size of a tiger bear the polar bear runs away from a grizzly bear ti can,t actually fight
Posted @ Monday, June 20, 2011 11:49 AM by tiger
the tiger kills gaurs 4 times it,s size the bear could not even kill a walrus twice the size and slow the polar bear is pound to pound weaker then tigers and even brown bears and the tiger has a stronger paw force then any bear and a bit force the bear is rarely twice the size of a tiger bear the polar bear runs away from a grizzly bear ti can,t actually fight
Posted @ Monday, June 20, 2011 11:51 AM by tiger
At Sabih Jamal and tiger 
 
The same way that bears rarely kill walruses it's the same way that tigers rarely kill gaur. A walrus it's much harder to kill than a gaur because it's heavier and it has thick blubber. And yes, the average Polar bear is at least twice the size of a Siberian tiger; that's a fact. 
 
Also, the tiger's paw swipe is nowhere near a strong a Polar bear's. A Polar bear's swipe is so strong that just one swipe is enough to rip a humans head off. Tigers are not even known for that. 
 
As for the bite force, a Polar bear has stronger jaws. It's so strong it can pull a 1320 pound whale out of the water! 
 
And by the way, there are more reports of brown bears killing Siberian tigers than vice versa.
Posted @ Monday, June 20, 2011 12:06 PM by Anonymous
may i remind you that on land it is not that difficult to kill a walrus due to the fact that it does not have legs to move around and hit the bear with it,s tusks but even then a bear rearly ever attacks and a tiger paw force is near 4 tons tell me whats the paw force of a polar bear and a tiger can,t rip a person,s head of because it usually kills with it,s teeth a polar is not even as tough as the others bears are it is less muscular and has a thinner neck brown bears pose a bigger threat to a tiger then a polar bear because it is more muscular has a thicker neck and is used to fighting a tiger a polar bear does not even fights it runs away from grizzly it will not know how to handle a big cat and the bear is usually between 1000 to 1200 lbs due to lack of food in it,s area so unless the bear gets a good hit it will not win 
Posted @ Monday, June 20, 2011 11:39 PM by sabih jamal
a tiger can also kill a walrus due to it,s speed it only needs to panatrate the walrus bladder which it will because big cats can panatreate the skin of hippos and rhinos and elephants
Posted @ Monday, June 20, 2011 11:43 PM by tiger
At sabih jamal and tiger: 
 
A Polar bear has stronger neck muscles and stronger and sharper teeth than brown bears. Like I said, a Polar bear's jaws and neck are so strong that it can pull a 1320 pound whale out of the water. 
 
And yes, a Polar bear's paw swipe is way stronger than a tiger's. A Polar bears paw is larger, thicker, heavier, and stronger. And yes, it's strong enough to rip a human's head off. 
 
A tiger will not be able to handle a walrus because even though walruses are slow on land, they have a very thick bladder and they are much larger. A Polar bear can weigh from 770-1500 pounds. As for a Siberian tiger, only 400-670 pounds. So even if the bear weighed by the pounds you (jamal) said, the tiger will be no match for the Polar bear. And specially for a walrus since it's even larger than a Polar bear! 
 
And Polar bears have a natural aversion (dislike) to brown bears. In fact, they try to avoid each other. Also, brown bears tend to be more aggressive than Polar bears. But if a Polar would become aggressive with a brown bear, most likely the brown bear will flee as well. Bears in general try to avoid fights. 
 
But if any tiger provokes a Polar bear, it's most likely over for the tiger. 
 
P.s. Siberian brown bears are smaller than Alaskan brown bears and Polar bears bears and even they (Siberian brown bear) can kill tigers. So imagine what a Polar bear would do to the tiger?
Posted @ Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:54 AM by Anonymous
okay so you said that paw swipe of a polar bear is more stronger can you show me any evidence and the fact that bears avoid fights the polar bears always flee from brown bears and not even russian bears but smaller grizzly bears the bear drag a 1300kg animal that,s not much for a 700kg polar bear tigers can drag pray twice there size as well as for bear being tougher then brown bears the brown bears are much more muscular then a polar bear and i am not saying this if you want to know it the truth search on the net and for the final question for pound to pound toungh the tigers and all big cats are pound to pound tougher then any bear i admit the fact that brown bears can kill tigers but a grizzly a brown bear and a alaskan bear (kodaik bear) can also kill a polar bear polar bear is the largest pradator on land it is not the strongest and not the toughest
Posted @ Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:58 PM by sabih jamal
At sabih jamal: 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y4kGrKy9pk<--- shows how Polar and grizzly bears prefer to avoid each other. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPHD5kPpmxk<----shows that Polar bears neck muscles and jaws are very powerful (3:20). 
 
And how can you say that lifting a 1320 pound whale with the jaws is not a lot?! Of course it is! A tiger would not be able to lift such animal unless it had strong neck muscles and jaws!  
 
And the reason why Polar bears flee from brown bears is because Polar bears are not territorial. Meaning that they would not be aggressive if they see an "intruder." And yes, a Polar bear is arguably the largest and STRONGEST land predator because most agree with that. The Kodiak bear would be a close second most of the time. 
 
And I am not sure if the tiger is stronger pound for pound than Polar bears. But even if it was, it wouldn't matter. For example, a jaguar is stronger pound for pound than a lion and a tiger. Does that mean that it would beat any of those big cats? No. Pound for pound means that the animal is stronger for its size. That's it. 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:13 AM by Anonymous
actually a kodoick bear is stronger then polar bear due to it,s muscales and jaguar is pound to pound tougher the any big cat but the speed and agility differance between it and a tiger is not that much the the tiger is more aggressive and has more hunting experiance the bears the polar bear on the other hand does not see a big cat in it,s entire life and a rearly ever hunts a over 3500lbs walrus there have only been few records of this happening the tiger can kill r4hinos there have been records on tigers killing rhinos and even elephants in kazrangr park tigers killed 20 rhinos in one year i atmit that it will take a very large and aggressive tiger to do so but rhinos and elephants are also far more bigger and stronger then a polar bear  
Posted @ Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:26 AM by sabih jamal
At jamal sabih: 
 
No. Most of the time, a Polar bear is stronger than a Kodiak bear. Like I said, most people agree with that. Furthermore, tigers very rarely kill elephants and rhinos. It's even more rare than when a Polar bear kills a bull walrus. 
 
The only time when a tiger kills a rhino or elephant is when they're very young. A tiger knows better than messing with a bull rhino or elephant. Rhinos have very tough skin, they are very large, and very aggressive. It won't take long for a bull Rhino to kill any tiger. And as for a bull elephant, it would only take a stomp and it's over for the tiger. So, tigers killing rhinos and elephants are very rare cases. Even young elephants and rhinos become fairly rare victims because their mothers will keep a very good eye on them. 
 
Now, saying that tigers have more experience than Polar bears does not make any sense. Tigers have more killing experience than Polar bears in their own environment. If a tiger were to hunt, for example, for a whale, it would die of hyperthermia because the water would be too cold for them. A tiger won't be able to handle a Polar bear's environment and vice versa because Polar bears are not as fast as tigers when it comes to running or chasing a prey.  
 
Posted @ Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:29 PM by Anonymous
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Posted @ Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:43 AM by BrotherBear
if you might have not read the records tigers in in a park where finding adult rhinos easy pray then buffolos who stay in groups tiger have been recorded to kill a female elephant and as far as killing experiance is concerned even in there own envoirment a tiger hunts difficult pray the polar bear extremely rarely prays on walrus above 2500lbs from behind and even then it could not hold on to it you said that a polar bear avoids a fight but therte at least has to be one record which shows that a polar bear killed or drived a grizzly bear off tigers kill rhinos more often the a bear kills a 4000lbs walrus an d even if there has been no case the says a rhino kills a tiger but the have been twenty records that shows a tiger kills a rhino  
Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:57 AM by sabih jamal
in india there have even been a record of a tiger dispatches a bull elephant YOU PEOPLE OVER RATE THE POLAR BEAR JUST BECAUSE OF IT,S SIZE A KODAIK BEAR IS STRONGER EVEN SIZE VICE IT IS BIGGER THEN POLAR BEAR AT AVERAGE SCINCE THE POLAR IS GETTING SMALLER DUE TO LACK OF FOOD YOU SAID THAT A BEAR DRAGS A 1300KG WHALE A TIGER ALSO DRAGS A 700KG BUFFOLO IT IS NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL TO DRAG PRAY TWICE IT,S SIZE
Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:06 AM by sabih jamal
what you people refuse to understand a tiger is the most amazing predator on land it is the only pertator known to hunt pray 6 times it,s size a polar beer is powerful but a tiger is a better predator and a better fighter
Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:11 AM by tiger
At sabih jamal and tiger: 
 
No. Those records you are mentioning are tigers killing YOUNG elephants and rhinos. Like I said tigers know better than messing with adult elephants and rhinos. Even adult female rhinos and elephants would easily kill a tiger! And yes, tigers killing adult elephants and rhinos is more rare than Polar bears killing bull walruses. Polar bears are known to kill walruses. However, tigers are not known for killing rhinos and elephants because such cases are extremely rare. Tigers are known to kill gaur. That yes, it's true. 
 
Also, I never said that tigers only catch easy preys. And YES, bears in general avoid fights. Especially Polar bears since they are not territorial. That's a fact and I already showed you the video! And NO, Kodiak bears are not larger than Polar bears on average. It is the other way around! Polar bears are the largest land carnivores on the planet! And Polar bears are most of the time stronger than Kodiak bears. Most people agree with that. 
 
And polar bears "dragging" a 1320 pound whale out of the water with their jaws IS A BIG DEAL because they don't only drag, they LIFT that whale out of the water! Tigers do not lift their prey like that unless they are small like a gazelle, for example. Tigers do not have the strong jaws and neck muscles like the polar bear! That's why they can't LIFT very large animals with their jaws! 
 
Also, when bears (including polar bears) are starving they become nasty and they would kill anything they please! Even if the tiger manages to get the polar bear by surprise, the Polar bear's thick blubber and cloak will protect it from major damage. But, it is very unlikely for a tiger to surprise the polar bear since the polar has the best sense of smell of any animal. They can smell an animal/prey for up to 20 miles away!
Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:13 PM by Anonymous
At sabih jamal: 
 
One more thing, just because a tiger can scare a bull Indian elephant, does not mean a tiger can kill it. Indian elephants are not aggressive elephants like the African ones. Besides, if that Indian elephant decided to kill that tiger, it would do so with little effort.
Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:17 PM by Anonymous
a 11 feet 350 kilo, hungry siberian tiger would kill any bear lol 
 
bears hunts like, what? seals?  
 
tigers (specifically siberian tigers) are adapted to hunting big preys like guars and brown bears. 
 
even if the polar bear would somehow win, the tiger would have made fatal intersections towards the bears body that he would die afterwards. 
 
also, this is a reality fight, not a computer-programmed theoretical fight made by a bunch of butthurt inbred dog lovers.
Posted @ Monday, July 04, 2011 6:24 PM by Andreas
At Andreas: 
 
A hungry polar can become very nasty and would kill any animal it pleases. Polar bears don't just kill seals, they also kill walruses and whales. And those animals are larger than gaurs.  
 
And those brown bears that you are talking about also kill tigers even though those brown bears are significantly smaller than Polar bears. Besides, there has been more reports of brown bears killing Siberian tigers than vice versa. 
 
So, if those brown bears can kill Siberian tigers, imagine what polar bears would do to those tigers. EXACTLY! 
 
And if the Polar bear wins, it would be very unlikely for it to have major injuries since polar bears have thick fur and blubber. And those would protect them from any major injuries. 
 
Also, this is not a real fight. Just read the fight again and look how dumb and bias it is. And I don't need to tell you why because any jackass would realize how stupid this fight was written. This is not a professional fight event assumption, OBVIOUSLY!
Posted @ Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:12 AM by Anonymous
After reading most of these articles, i just want to laugh at most of these peoples iliteracy. You guys are claiming to be so smart and know so much shit and the only words you can spell are "tiger" and "bear". It makes me wonder if 99% of these so called experts are nothing more than stubborn children behind the computer. aside from that, who in their right mind could or would put any money on a full grown male siberian tiger over a full grown male polar bear? this is supposed to be a speculation of a caged 1vs 1 fight pit, a dusty circle surrounded by walls as most crude fight pits are. There is no land predator bigger than the polar bear (on occasion a kodiak) how could the two even compare? you tiger fans talk about how great of hunters tigers are, how they're so smart, when more often than not their hunts end in failure. Both animals have their habbitatual advantages, which make them appear magnificent in the wild at times. But it is very simple. in a 1vs1 setting in your typical fighting ring area, where the only factors at play are the animals and their own selves, theres just no way a tiger could go head to head with the might of a polar bear. a tiger really only has one killing blow to a bear, and thats a good bite to the back of the neck or throat. a polar bear could bite, stomp, swipe, claw its way through a tiger, and i am talking siberian tigers people. a tiger simply has too many variables to face in a fight with a polar bear. polar bears survive on the most unhabitable place on earth, sure a tiger could win, if it catches that once very rare royal flush.
Posted @ Monday, July 11, 2011 9:09 PM by greatwhiteape
the bear would get beaten to a pulp then plowed in the anus repeatedly whilst lying on the ground bleeding to death 
 
no homo
Posted @ Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:45 PM by dogs sucks
The Siberian Tiger would win all day erry day
Posted @ Friday, August 05, 2011 4:37 PM by Adam
Polar bear would win because of overwhelming strength.Also because of claws and teeth.It is like 3x smarter than a tiger.Tigerfans argue about speed but its not much faster and bear is WAy stronger 
There has been more reports of brown bears killing tigers than tigers killing bears. 
And some small males right after hibernation has even killed a sibrian tiger that was full grown. 
So why cant a polar bear kill a tiger.Yeah thats right, you tell me. 
 
Posted @ Saturday, August 06, 2011 4:51 PM by LizardsRCool
gonna have to give to the tiger this time...... bear has the same strength as the tiger but tiger has more speed and have experience in killing a brown bear... which is smaller than the polar... but i don't think the tiger is the best on land there are a few animals their size that i think can beat a tiger...
Posted @ Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:53 PM by kevin lee
I heard the Siberian tigers meal consists partially of brown bears, and iirc kodiak bears are bigger than polar bears. 
 
The Tiger would win.
Posted @ Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:44 PM by GWS
tiger wins
Posted @ Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:17 AM by Tiger king
Cat pound for pound are the worlds most dangerous creatures. So if the tiger is the right size the bear just might lose plus cats and bear have two completely different fighting styles. And Polar bears don't hunt walrus and whale often the hunt 110lbs seals with no form of defense but a tiger hunts a Guar basically a bull but almost twice the size with 12 in horns. Plus polar bears have a huge long neck which is vulnerable and bears are fast not agile in close quarters there is a difference thats why bears charge and cats pounce.
Posted @ Sunday, August 28, 2011 11:11 AM by xavier
wow 
 
but polarbear win over tiger
Posted @ Sunday, September 04, 2011 6:01 AM by wild snowleopard
the tiger would dodge the bears paw, they have the fastest reflexes of all animals and would put their canines into the polar bears neck 
 
tiger wins. 
 
Posted @ Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:01 PM by LOL
@LOL 
 
I'm sorry I had to be the one to say this, but pretty much everything you said is wrong. If the tiger went for the neck (which is a preferred killing tactic among big cats) it would have to jump to reach the polar bear's throat; they are twelve feet tall standing upright. A tiger can't dodge anything while it's airborne and moving directly towards the threat, which would be the polar bear's crushing paw. 
 
You said they have the fastest reflexes of any animal. This is a total lie. Bears have excellent reflexes as well; they can pull a seal or a beluga whale out of the water at a moment's notice when they come up for air. There is no proof of ANY animal having the best reflexes, but most people would have the common sense to agree that this title was held by the cheetah (they are able to dodge multiple obstacles such as rocks and bushes in a matter of seconds while they sprint at 70mph). 
 
You said that the tiger would sink its canines into the polar bear's neck. Do some research on tiger teeth and bear skin. A Siberian tiger's canines are only 3.5 inches long, but a polar bear has 2 inches of fur and another 4.5 inches of blubber for body protection. Result: the tiger's teeth WOULD NOT PENETRATE THE BEAR'S DEFENSES! 
 
The bear, however, has more than enough strength to bite through the tiger's neck or break the spine with its paw. The tiger has nothing when it comes to body protection. 
 
Polar bear wins, hands down.
Posted @ Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:09 PM by Arctodus
If you think a polar bear can 'easily break the back of a tiger you're ignorant. although polar bears are stronger Tigers are at least 12 times as strong as a man and have enormous speed, much more speed than a polar bear. A Polar bear would probably win but if the tiger got it's teeth in the neck it would be all over.
Posted @ Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:02 PM by Aaron
Arctdufus, the blubber is not so much around the neck, the tiger's teeth could penetrate, also the crushing action on the wind pipe and arterial blood flow is the main effect.
Posted @ Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:05 PM by Aaron
Aaron, I don't see the point of calling me a dufus. You may be right about the blubber thinning at the neck and I know about the real point of the neck bite, but I think that otherwise we are in agreement. The tiger IS somewhat faster (its top speed is 38mph compared to the bear's 30mph) but the fight wouldn't have to last very long for the tiger to run out of steam, as all felines have quite poor stamina. Then the bear (which has an ENORMOUS amount of stamina) would kill the tiger any way it wanted, whether it's a crushing paw blow to the spine or the skull or a deadly neck bite. And although it is possible for the tiger to bite the bear's neck and block the windpipe, it would have to get past the bear's deadly arms (which can behead a human or kill a beluga whale with one blow). Yes, if the tiger got in a well-aimed neck bite then the fight would end, but the same can be said for the polar bear. After all, brown bears have been known to kill adult male tigers in face-to-face fights, mainly disputes over kills, and I doubt that a polar bear would differ too greatly.
Posted @ Monday, October 31, 2011 2:49 PM by Arctodus
hey , my brothers & sisters dont be so bothered about this. 
I like to say that this fight will depend upon enviorement of the field.But in my opinion,i will favour for this gigantic polar bear ,because in this wild life war priority should goes to the stronger side
Posted @ Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:44 PM by Nise
ALL LIES IF DHOLES KILL TIGERS THEN A THOUSAND POUND POLAR BEAR Can!
Posted @ Monday, November 21, 2011 3:36 PM by jc
Omg I cant believe how bad the spelling is on some of these posts. To me it seems like the fully mature Polar Bear is just too tough, powerful and heavy to be beaten by a tiger even if there were no environmental factors to take account of. However this is besides the point. I really dont think apex predators would look to start a fight with a healthy animal that is so large and strong as a bear or tiger. Also a tiger has such good vision (270 degrees vision) it would not get ambushed by a bear and if a bear got close it would most likely accelerate a way and stay at a faster speed than the bear and get away.
Posted @ Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:54 PM by Benba
ok. Polar bear is very strong specially built for harsh cold weather. They have lairs of fat and heavy fur. The animals it hunts are very large but extremely slow like Walrus, Seals, if lucky a deer.none of its pay ever fight back. Polar bears are smart animals but they are defensive animal. they are more like a heavy weight boxer. Second of all they are not an ambush hunter.  
A Tiger on the other hand is a lean yet muscular killing machine, designed with a purpose of hunting, killing, attacking, jumping, hanging and even running down their pray. Although they mostly bring down their pray in an ambush attack. 1 Tiger can fight and kill 3 Lions at the same time purely based on its speed. It can jump 15 feet up in the air. Its the best of the cats. Lion looses because it lacks the front limbs agility. Think about it. A wild Bob Cat 25 pounds, can fight off a 80 pounds wolf. The Design of Cat is flawless. 
Tiger is the best of the best cat. by the time a Polar Bear gets up on its hind legs the Tiger would have made at lest 3-4 of its move on the Bear.  
In other word it a fight between the best boxer vs the best of mixed martial arts. Its a no-brain er.
Posted @ Monday, November 28, 2011 9:35 PM by Niraj Shah
Niraj Shah, you are right, it is a no-brainer. A no-brainer that you clearly don't understand the polar bear's capabilities at ALL. To say that the tiger would have attacked the bear three to four times before the polar bear stood up is just beyond stupid. The bear is only SLIGHTLY slower than the tiger. By the time the tiger reached the throat of the bear, its skull would have been crushed by the bear's paw! No, the tiger is not as muscular as the bear by a long shot. The tiger is 60% muscle, the polar bear is 50% muscle. The large bears have 750lbs of solid muscle working for them, the tiger doesn't have that much mass in its whole body! You said that the tiger is "the best cat". That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Are you implying that it is the best fighter? Because that's the lion. Are you implying the tiger is the best hunter? That's the cougar. You say the cat's design is flawless. No offense, but HOW STUPID ARE YOU??? The feline's design has PLENTY of flaws! 
1. It is built for quick sprints, it can't run or fight very long. 
2. It has much less use of its paws than the bear does. 
3. Its forelimbs are much weaker than the bear's. 
4. Its jaws are much weaker than the bear's. 
5. It has sensitive paw pads that can easily be torn, frozen or burnt, depending on the terrain. 
6. It has absolutely nothing in the ways of body protection. Compare that to the bear's 2 inches of fur and 4.5 inches of blubber to guard its body. The tiger's 3 inch claws couldn't inflict any serious damage any time soon. 
 
It's more like a 12,000lb white monster truck in a demolition derby against a 4,800lb striped pickup truck. No contest.
Posted @ Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:23 PM by Arctodus
The tiger would stand no chance.. A polar bear can smell a seal under 3 feet of ice from 10 miles away.. There is no sneaking up on a Polar bear. Polar bears are also aggressive, and the article greatly underestimates the speed of these bears. It's native habitat, the Polar bear is king.
Posted @ Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:50 PM by Ryan
What? Are you guys kidding me? 
It's a POLAR BEAR, the largest bear (alongside the omnivorous Alaskan brown bear the 'Kodiak bear'') and the largest land predator on earth. It can weight up to 1500 pounds, it has a bone crushing bite force (42 teeth closing down with a force over 440 psi), and takes down walruses. It's thick blubber(4 inches of it) would protect it from most major damage, and the fact that it's paws are gigantic (can rip off a head of an adult human with a single blow), means it could destroy the tiger within minutes maybe. Yes, some Siberian tigers have been known to kill grizzly bears, but a polar bear is just colossal (stands fully at upright an adult males can stands 10 feet in their hinder legs). They live in the Arctic, another factor that gives the bear the advantage - the Arctics a snowy wasteland.
Posted @ Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:00 PM by Peter
This author is so biased. A polar bear can weigh three times more than a tiger and has four inches of blubber under its skin. It also is very agile, and while thetiger might get the better of it for a little bit, all the polr bear has to do is gat one good blow in with its paw and the tiger is dead.
Posted @ Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:52 PM by animal expert
I'm with you on that, animal expert. Tigers are not fighters. They are supreme hunters, yes, but nothing more. In a face-off, these cats are out of their element, as they lack their favorite advantage in attack: ambush. The male lion? Truly the king of the beasts: they sleep twenty hours a day, they take other carnivores' food, and they have females do all their hunting for them. Kings aren't all they're cracked up to be; they can't fend for themselves. Bears, on the other hand, are much more powerful and skilled at fighting, especially the brown bear. If people want to root for the cats because they like cats more, that's one thing. But if anyone actually BELIEVES the bear would lose to the tiger most of the time, that's just unfortunate.
Posted @ Monday, December 26, 2011 7:10 AM by Arctodus
^^ post above me is just like i was going to say. Yes a tigers a very capable agile hunter but what good is that in a face off with a beast that could easily take the claws of a tiger, probably several times due to its fat and muscle, a polar bear would fucking crush its head with one paw, and that's not overacting. Some of the peoples posts here, i would be surprised if they've even seen a nature program in there life, I could imagine a brown bear being killed, definitely not a polar bear, you mindless fucks :) and I'm not bias, I stand neutral in this bear-tiger war :P just cant stand stupid fuck comments.
Posted @ Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:27 AM by CC
I read all articles listed,am just adding that a polar bear is super strong,with powerful claws.A lion or a tiger is a joke in an all out fight.Please look at this fight with a short face bear and a cave lion. 
http://youtu.be/UAH5uat3b24
Posted @ Monday, January 02, 2012 2:39 PM by Jaguarbelize
on QI, the TV show in the UK, they said that in the old days, for sport, they used to fight different animals against one another to see who'd win. Apparently the brown bear would kill a lion every single time. It would bite and crush the lion's head apparently. That said, I think it would be pretty even between a polar bear and a Bengal tiger. That's an episode of David Attinburgh's 'Natural World' I wouldn't miss! By the way, I can't believe we're having this debate... ;-).
Posted @ Monday, January 02, 2012 3:05 PM by Mark
My friend, the prehistoric lion was an animal that was not agile as a result it evolved into a mountain lion(american puma). A Tiger is at least 4 times stronger and more importantly faster than that prehistoric lion.  
Like i said before a tiger can take down 2 male african lions.  
Polar bear or brown bears are not designed to fight battles. They are more of an opportunistic animal.  
bear will go down in this fight 
Posted @ Monday, January 02, 2012 5:32 PM by Niraj Shah
@Niraj Shah 
 
You could not be a bit more mistaken! The FELINES are the opportunistic animals, you moron! That's why they tend to attack only injured or otherwise weakened animals! Bears are PERFECTLY designed to fight. They have tall yet stocky builds, and unlike felines they can actually balance themselves on their hind legs! Just let go of this already. A tiger 4x as strong and faster than the much larger American lion that could sprint at 50mph? You are DESPERATE!! A brown bear can kill an adult bull American bison with a single blow, same can be said for a polar bear and a beluga whale. A lion or tiger will go down easily. And no, a tiger CAN'T take down two male African lions. It's quite the other way around; the lion is a much better fighter than any tiger. If you are right about the bear going down in this fight, why have tigers NEVER managed to kill an adult male brown bear before? Never has that happened! That fact alone is all the proof we need to show that you're just a tiger fanboy. You've got no proof or evidence to support your claims. Until you do, you really should stop posting here. You're making a fool of yourself, and every time you post something it becomes clearer to everyone that you know nothing about animals. One polar bear swat=dead tiger. Polar bear=winner. Tiger=mincemeat. Case closed.
Posted @ Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:04 PM by Arctodus
Arctodus, SO RIGHT a tiger could never get to the polar bears neck by the time the polar bear crushed it with its arms.
Posted @ Friday, January 13, 2012 2:21 PM by Ryuhap
Size isn't everything. Tigers much smaller than the siberians have been known to flip crocs with one paw-swipe, so a sib could easily knock a polar bear down. The quiker tiger would instantly finish the pb as it was getting back up.
Posted @ Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:50 PM by ThatGuy
@ThatGuy 
 
Wrong. Bengal tigers are actually roughly the same size as Siberian ones. And no, they HAVEN'T been known to flip crocodiles with one paw swipe. They kill crocs with a bite to the head, you idiot. Even then, they rarely kill any croc that's not a baby. No, a tiger COULDN'T knock a polar bear down. It's just plain stupid to even think that. Speed won't save a cheetah in a fight with a hyena, so what good will it do a tiger against a polar bear? Size IS everything when it comes to carnivores. Add that to the fact that the polar bear also has height, strength, stronger jaws, intelligence, body protection AND forelimb dexterity that are all greater than the tiger's. What does that tell you, hmm? (In case you don't know math either, it means polar bear>tiger. Easily.)
Posted @ Monday, January 23, 2012 12:42 PM by
Tiger would win, the bear would stand up on his hindlegs and that would make the bear vulnerable. The tiger would go for the throat!!!!
Posted @ Friday, February 03, 2012 12:36 AM by Dolfo
@Dolfo 
 
You're a dumbass. Yes, the tiger would go for the throat, but standing doesn't make the polar bear vulnerable; it's the perfect defense for that tactic. It forces the tiger to jump AND it leaves the polar bear's arms free to attack. As soon as the cat jumps, all the bear needs to do is swat it with its paw to leave the kitty with either a snapped spine, a crushed skull or both of the above.
Posted @ Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:50 AM by
There's all kinds of shit that could happen in a fight.
Posted @ Monday, February 06, 2012 3:07 AM by Dolfo
oh yeah..i don't think the polar bear is fast enough to hit the tiger anyways, a big tiger like that would knock the bear down and then the bear would be defenseless...
Posted @ Monday, February 06, 2012 3:24 AM by Dolfo
Wrong again, Dolfo. No tiger has ever even managed to kill a male brown bear in Sikhote-Alin, and their brown bears are tiny. A male polar bear can be more than twice the size of one. All you have is your stupid opinion "i don't think the polar bear is fast enough to his the tiger anyways" yet there is proof that it IS, as its close cousin the brown bear is more than fast enough (they kill tigers more often than the opposite), and polar bears are just as fast as them. Facts always win things like this. And the fact is that you're an idiot with nothing but your own biased, tiger-loving opinion to back your claims. I have reality on my side. So until you can actually PROVE something you're saying, shut up you moron.
Posted @ Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:19 PM by
Wow...i bet you feel like a big man making those rude ass comments towards me and my opinion which there's nothing wrong with sharing your opinions on this site..I haven't seen a fucking bear and a tiger fight personally so ALL i can do is state my opinion..jackass
Posted @ Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:11 PM by Dolfo
And just one more thing..why in the hell are me and you talking? I don't know you, I don't like you, and I just expressed my opinion..I really don't want to have a debate over something that is really fucking stupid..just because you feel brave behind your computer or cell phone or whatever! If me and you were standing toe to toe..you wouldn't say anything derogatory..jus sayin
Posted @ Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:28 PM by Dolfo
You can go ahead and lie about your size and lifestyle to try and intimidate me..but i aint scared of shit so i'm just gonna laugh, everybody hits like a bitch in my opinion..
Posted @ Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:31 PM by Dolfo
I can't believe that this entry is still getting new comments a year and a half later! I appreciate you all reading. - Brian
Posted @ Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:32 PM by The Author
Nice website..wish it had real life fights that included these animals and not just pictures and comments.
Posted @ Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:20 PM by Ken
This author seems very interesting to me. He seems to be biased towrds the tiger in many of these fights. However I do think he has a point here. Let me start with this the fact that a ANY bear can kill with a swipe of its forelinb is a myth, propganda, there are no clear records that state a bear can kill with a swipe of it's paw, true it can seriosly injure but not kill. Also most people here say that a bear is More than twice the size of a adult male siberian tiger....most male adult polar or kodiak bears get to 1000-1200 pounds. Thats the average weight,wheras average male siberian tigers get from 550 to 650 pounds. I think the tiger would win this fight 6 out of 10 IN MY OPINION!!!!Nobody atually knows what would happen and we'll never find out unless some crackpot pits these 2 magnificent beasts against each other
Posted @ Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:10 PM by The specialist
lol at all you fuckers! 
 
"ahhh it would be very interesting to see these two magNIFICENT beasts face off, the tiger is a very skilled beast they can take on deer and buffalo and young adolescent premature elephants and rhinos and bears, i like to use big words to show how highly intelligent I am, even though I probably just now learned these words..but who gives a shit don't judge me, also I am a black man from another country, I have studied these animals for many, many years...but unfortunately i get on this amateur website called Animal Fight Club to show off my superior intelligence! The bear is the mightiest of all Land Carnivores, one single swipe would just CRIPPLE the tigah! I know this because I study them..IN THE FIELD. I am a well known scientist and I use my limitless knowledge of bullshit against any foe on this website" 
 
That's what yall sound like...just sayin.
Posted @ Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:44 PM by lionelrichie
Some guy who who left his name blank claims two incorrect things 
 
 
 
A) Bengal and Siberian Tigers are roughly the same size. 
 
 
 
B) Tigers have not been known to flip crocs in one pawswipe. 
 
 
 
Statement A is incorrect, but it does not need to be adressed, as the croc-flipper I'm referring to is a Sunderbans tiger, which is inferior in size to both Siberian and Bengal tigers. However point B does need to be adressed. Here is a report of a fight between a Sunderbans tiger and an 1800 pound salty. 
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djSVtXdN-E
Posted @ Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:34 PM by That Guy
why did you feel the need to correct somebody? this whole thing is fucking gay...
Posted @ Friday, February 17, 2012 10:30 PM by Oz
I've studied these animals myself and doubt a fully grown siberian tiger has a chance against a fully grown male polar bear. my reason is the only way a tiger can kill a polar bear is with a bite to the throat. it usually takes a tiger a few mins to subdue a larger prey animal than itself in this way. if a tiger is able to make this bite the bear will not just sit there it will claw away for it's life. and unlike hoofed animals (normal tigers prey) massive bear claws will tear the biggest tiger apart
Posted @ Monday, February 20, 2012 10:03 AM by Theo
I formally believe A Polar Bear would win with minute if not some casualties. My reason for this would be it's thick layer of blubber and cautious approach to foreign objects. A Polar Bear is Equipped with larger paws than that of a Brown bear or any bear for that matter, as well as Forelimb porportions. Giving it a wide range for swiping if attacked. It biggest flaw is its long neck, but even so, it's sheer size can overpower the Arctic's circle heaviest animals. 
 
 
 
I give props to a siberian tiger for being agile and very powerful in terms of Jaw musculuture,but let's face it. Its not up against a Brown bear who is omnivorous. It's against a pure carnivore just like itself. 
 
 
 
but this is only on a face to face battle.
Posted @ Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:08 AM by Msantos
I came across this and I need to give some information that might determine the winner in this one. I was in Nunavut that's a territory in northern Canada and I witnessed a very surprising and disturbing event. A man in his pickup truck with the window rolled down was attacked by a full grown adult polar bear. Now for those who don't know anything about polar bears they are very quiet and stealthy, if you are about to be attacked there is only a few seconds warning 10th distance before you see it. Just ask an Inuit. The story gets very disturbing, this man pointed his Lee Enfield .303 rifle and shot 7 rounds point blank into the polar bear.......yes that's right 7 rounds point blank.( If you're not sure what that rifle can do look it up.) And then the bear became angry and ran down the street, it took another few shots with a shotgun and slugs to bring it down. Now I don't mean to diminish what a Siberian tiger can do but are their teeth and claws able to do as much damage as a Lee Enfield? I'm guessing yes maybe more but nowhere near what's needed to stop that bear. Adding to the fact that the bear can also attack and don't be fooled polar bears are big and they are very agile. Polar bears can collapse a scull with one swing of their paw and they have claws and teeth also. And irrelevant to my answer but i need to ask if a Siberian tiger attacked that man would it still be standing after 7 rounds from a Lee Enfield?
Posted @ Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:27 AM by Gary
SOOOOOO??????? Teh bear would crush the tiger instantly, charging at it than standing guard 10 ft away. Tiger lunges for the juggler only to be outfought by the bigger bear. Bear stands up. Tiger lunges again. Bear break spine. Tiger fall down. Bear finish with bite to neck
Posted @ Friday, March 16, 2012 7:49 PM by URMOM!!!
Shut up urmom!!! Tiger grow wings than shoot lazer eye at bear. bear lose tiger win. tiger is top land predator. i only like tiger because it look good. people make up how tiger would win but it good because it say tiger beat bear. I an Idiot.
Posted @ Friday, March 16, 2012 7:52 PM by URDAD
@Gary> You are absolutely right, I wouldn't fuck with a bear unless I had an AK47 or something with similar rate of fire plus stopping power. But against a tiger it wouldn't bother me as much.. The bottom line is that the bear can take a massive amount of damage, where as the tiger cant. Plus the fact that the bear can inflict equal if not more damage than the tiger.
Posted @ Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:04 PM by Miguel Sanchez
The fact is pound for pound a tiger is stronger than a bear, But when it comes to size bears are much larger and therefore stronger, The reason brown bears are larger is so the wont be hunted by big cats, its natures way of protection, If tiger grew naturally to 1200lbs, bears would be extinct. Conclusion same weight tiger wins, Since grizzly, or brown bears, polar bears are way too big, Bear wins. These are the facts, (End of discussion)
Posted @ Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:39 PM by steve
@steve you are 100% correct.. fact is pound for pound Jose Aldo is a better fighter thatn Brock Lesnar.. put the 2 into an Octagon and see who wins.. 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:59 PM by Miguel Sanchez
I personally don't see a tiger breaking down the defenses of a 900-1200 LB animal. At that point the bear is too big for a tiger to do anything without getting seriously hurt. The bear would simply fall on top of the cat and crush it.
Posted @ Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:09 PM by cow jumps over a horse
Polar Bear 
 
regular weight - 300 to 700 kg (average more than 500 kg) 
 
max weight - 1002 kg (captured in the wild in 1960) 
 
speed - 50km/h 
 
 
 
Siberian Tiger 
 
regular weight - up to 300 kg (average about 200 kg) 
 
max weight - 423 kg (in zoo) 
 
speed - 70km/h 
 
 
 
In the wild, Polar Bear is a TOP PREDATOR. Only human or bigger Polar Bear can kill Polar Bear.
Posted @ Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:16 AM by aha
What most of you are forgetting is that a Polar bear is living a completely different lifestyle than a brown bear... It is true that polar bears and brown bears are closely related, but the different landscapes has over time transformed the polar bear, making him larger, stronger to live in the cold and to hunt different animals! The brown bear doesn't even eat that much meat! Polar bears are meaner, stronger and hunt differently than brown bears!
Posted @ Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:22 PM by Shanty
The last word: Serberian Tiger Burgers: NUFF SAID!!
Posted @ Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:50 PM by
Why use such a large polar bear? In all honsety polars actually average around 500-650 pounds, only the large bears get to that 1000-1500 mark, the average siberian tiger is around 450 pounds only a 50 pound differential at the minimum.. Also bears have a much larger standard deviation size, thats why they can get so large compared to the average. Tigers and big cats for that matter don't but they do have a pound for pound more muscular build compared to ursids, however ursids are designed for rummeging through the forest and thus have more endurance. Also why are people saying it's impossible for a tiger to kill a bear when all they have to do is place a well timed throat bite...not to mention there are several cases of tigers killing rhinos and even juvenial elephants. Rhino/elephant hide> polar bear fat layers. There is statistical evidence that felines in general have a more powerful bight force than bears in this case the tiger is only outweighed by a maximum margin of 200 pounds, not really that much considering that tigers are superior to bears in many categories, not all but many.. Lastly bears have retractile claws that are constantly blunt from contact with the ground while tiger claws are retractile, just some food for thought...
Posted @ Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:48 PM by The Specialist
The Specialist has some good points.. But I thought this battle was between the average sizes of the animals.. The bear should be bigger and stronger.
Posted @ Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:48 PM by Miguel Sanchez
Well the averages aren't that farfetched from each other as far as weights go. I'm merely just stating some food for thought, no animal has a clear cut advantage over the other in this case.
Posted @ Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:40 PM by The Specialist
Siberian tigers eat brown bears in Siberia. Main food is brown bears in fact. Doesn't it make sense? No fight between sib tiger and brown bear. Tiger eats bear to survive. People used to call lion king of beasts when i was child. I wondered and read books and lol tiger is twice larger than lion, faster and skillful. I too amazed that bear is main food for tiger in siberia.
Posted @ Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:26 AM by ghatka
Ghatka, I really don't want to use harsh words here but at the least I am going to call you absentminded no offense intended. Brown bears only make up for 1-1.5% of a siberian tigers diet and those are premature females , cubs or scrawny AND premature males so sorry to have called you that but please get your facts straight.
Posted @ Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:20 AM by Jason
Actually Hugh, the Siberian Tiger can grow to 10.75 feet long. Also there are reports of these tigers killing and eating rhinos. A polar bear would put up a fight, but it wouldn't win.
Posted @ Monday, July 02, 2012 12:11 PM by Roman
The polar bear is the largest terrestrial carnivore, being more than twice as big as the Siberian tiger.[36] It shares this title with the Kodiak Bear.[37] Adult males weigh 350–680 kg (770–1500 lbs) and measure 2.4–3 m (7.9–9.8 ft) in length.[38] Adult females are roughly half the size of males and normally weigh 150–250 kg (330–550 lb), measuring 1.8–2.4 metres (5.9–7.9 ft) in length. The Polar bear is not your average Ussuri brown bears! There is a big difference, polar bears don't eat veggies!
Posted @ Monday, July 02, 2012 10:27 PM by
Gotta go with the polar bear. Just don't see a tiger being able to kill something so thick, big and massive.  
 
Posted @ Monday, August 27, 2012 10:28 AM by patrick
Also, want to add that I read that in the past they used to pit bears against lions and the bear would win every time. I know tigers and superior to lions in fighting, but I don't think the outcome would be much different.
Posted @ Monday, August 27, 2012 10:33 AM by patrick
The Polar bear would win easily. 
 
There's been reported cases of a Grizzly killing a Lion with one swipe to the head. 
 
All it takes is one mistake by the tiger and it's game over.
Posted @ Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:25 PM by
Stop talking about stupid size. 
If u make Bruce lee fight with arnold , who will win?. do you say, Arnold weighs 3 times that of a brucelee, so arnold would smash Lee??. Duh! Its all how efficient the killer is. Tiger are meant to kill larger . If you see the tiger's prey , they are as agile as tiger, unlike what the polar bear hunts, which hunts seal and walrus. tiger is a trained fighter and muscular.
Posted @ Wednesday, September 05, 2012 2:28 PM by Syndrome
I'm sure what some of you are smoking. The Polar bear would dismantle the tiger in a head to head.  
 
The tiger might be able to take the bear with a sneak attack. 
 
The bear is 2 1/2 times the size, waaay stronger, nearly as agile, bigger claws, and just as strong bite. 
 
Polar Bear wins 9 out of 10 times easily.
Posted @ Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:25 AM by Eric
Comparing it to Bruce Lee vs Arnold is retarded. The polar bear is no actor. It's the real deal just like Bruce. 
 
More like Muhammad Ali vs. Sugar Ray Leonard. The bigger, stronger and nearly as agile Ali wins.
Posted @ Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:30 AM by Eric
LOL this is so stupid, the only way a siberian tiger could beat a polar bear (a 10 foot, 1500 lbs fcking polar bear) is if it somehow got behind it. face to face combat a polar bear wins 100% of the time because of its ability to use its arms and its overwhelming power. 
 
polar bear would rip a siberian tiger to shreds if it got its hands on it. its just too damn powerful. this fight is as one sided as a (real) fight between kane and great khali. they are both huge, kane being more agile, but when khali gets his hands on kane its game over. 
 
this article is so biased and retarded.
Posted @ Friday, October 19, 2012 1:43 PM by scott
Easy, polar bear. It just runs the tiger over with it's traveling device, the polar express.<a>
Posted @ Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:00 AM by AmazingZach
Well it looks like this page has finally died down a bit ever since tobi zach and brady left. The polar bear seems to be the winner
Posted @ Monday, October 29, 2012 7:18 AM by Jason
Okay guys, I have a video of a bear totally trashing a tiger like crazy. You gotta see this guys. The bear is a female, barely as big as the tiger. 
You'll see. <a>http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/229952_428190590559605_1792421384_n.jpg
Posted @ Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:18 AM by DatFace84
i think a fullsize polarbear would crush a tiger.Polar-1200-1800 lbs. vs a tigers 400-600lbs,give me a break.polarbears fur is too thick an loose for a tiger to get a good grip.one hit from a bear that size would would make that tiger wish it was on a cerial box. case close.
Posted @ Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:18 PM by otha m.
The Polar Bear would win. It would crush the tiger with one swift kick to the face.
Posted @ Monday, November 26, 2012 8:59 AM by Holly
polar bear every time as big cats skeletal structure is designed to be light and agile where as the bear is much tougher, the strength of the bear allows it to crush the tiger skull in a single blow. this is such a one sided fight it was origaly a simmilar fight used as a con in the early days of the usa, a lion would be pitted against a grizzly, the lion would be all show with roaring and teeth luring in punters bets, however the bear would almost certainly win every time therfor releiving all the big cat supporters of $$$
Posted @ Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:09 PM by conor
I just have trouble seeing an 800 lb tiger beating a 2000 lb polar bear, assuming they are both at about their max weights...
Posted @ Monday, December 24, 2012 10:11 PM by A
tigers beats a polar bear any time any where.everybody knows that even my baby sister.
Posted @ Friday, January 04, 2013 2:56 PM by me so goth66
a full grown siberian tiger is known to kill and eat full grown brown bears ( grizzly bears). now - grizzly bears are known to kill polar bears. now tell me why a tiger cant kill a polar bear if it can kill a grizzly bear, which is the largest land predator inthe world. as a matter of fact, i have seen a female cougar beat a full grown male grizzly bear. why cant a tiger kill a polar bear if it can kill a fucking rhino which will definitely kill a fucking polar bear.
Posted @ Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:21 PM by tosa
If they were both large animals of the same sex (i.e. male vs. male) the Polar Bear would win...actually the Tiger would probably back down. 
 
How big is a male Polar bear? 9-10ft standing and somewhere around 1400-1500lbs? 
 
how big is a male Siberian Tiger? 7 feet? 700-800lbs? 
 
Polar Bears kill whales...I'm sure if the Tiger got a lucky bite, but one good bite from the Bear would make the cat go away. 
 
 
Posted @ Monday, January 14, 2013 8:49 PM by A
Lions and Tigers have no problem killing a bear of a similar weight and size. Polar Bears are only a little bit taller than a Siberian Tiger is long. It'd probably be a good fight, but I'd say the Tiger wins. Have you ever seen a house cat attack a full sized dog? 9 times out of 10, the cat wins. Cats are faster and they go for the throat, while bears mainly rely on their power which is why they will start eating you while you're still alive.
Posted @ Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:26 PM by wes
tiger would win
Posted @ Monday, January 28, 2013 9:59 AM by bluedevil108
tiger all the way.
Posted @ Monday, January 28, 2013 5:43 PM by Xavier
I have seen two videos in internet and in both win bear! and was a young grizzly bear, normal Polar bears and brown bear which are let's say biger, strengh is key factor and size too, atakin tiger do not reach to bear (but if taken by surprise), and paws from bear can heavily hurt tiger when defending. 
 
 
And if we have into acount the size of Bear, depends on the bear, but if it is brown bear or polar bear, have the chance to win, both tiger and gorillas!, Tigers would have the chance too against bear, surprise or speed, but bear strength probably think would be factor, significant. 
 
Species Average Range Heaviest Recorded 
American Black Bear 250 125-600 803 
Brown Bear 725 500-900 2,500+ 
Grizzly Bear 490 350-700 1,496 
Polar Bear 1,150 900-1,500 2,210 
 
Maximum tiger AMUR is weighted 500 and at this size it is not so agile, while normal ones are 350, small cat agains 500 or 900 bear, polar bear goes from 900 to 1500, dificult to reach if the bear has seen the cat!
Posted @ Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:59 PM by Antonio Navarro
Tigers have more muscle mass at parity then Bears. Siberian Tigers may also grow over 900lbs given a sufficient diet. How ever I think a smaller more agile Tiger could do some serious damage to the bear. Tigers do on occasion kill Bears so the fight could go either way
Posted @ Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:14 PM by MarineCorps
Separating personal bias from science: 
Grizzly bears would win almost always in a one on one with a tiger. 
The reason is that these specific types of bears are such poor predators that they evolved to be diggers, digging hard barren ground for roots, tubers, and den building. The grizzly bear subsequently evolved enormous bone and muscle density. 
 
Tiger biology is different - they are superior killers (against prey) and are built for catching up to and attacking the vulnerable windpipe. They have elasticity as well as power, but in biology you can't have the best of both worlds. The short answer is the grizzly bear is a durable powerhouse of bone crushing force, and the tiger is built to pounce and kill prey quickly. Yes, a tiger would surely overpower other land animals, but in this rare case, the grizzly bear would win. 
 
This is not so true for other pears, even polar bears, which have much shorter claws (2" compared to 6" for grizzly bears) a more vulnerable facial area, and lower bone density etc.
Posted @ Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:46 AM by Luke
Tiger is the king of the forest he is stronger then others animals tiger can esaly chase the polar bear
Posted @ Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:24 AM by sufiyan
Well, guys, look at this video and then tell me where size matters the most. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWxlZ52O0rI 
 
Now, people, you're not wrong when you say bears are agile. However, those are bears who need it. The Russian Brown Bear (an animal tigers kill and eat regularly) lives in a place where it has more competitors such as the tiger, and it needs the agility. If a tiger can eat an animal like that, then what makes you think polar bears suddenly have the agility out of nowhere to combat a tiger? A polar bear has literally no competition, and does not have to work or refine any skills to survive. The only problem ever with polar bears is the glaciers melting, causing a loss of habitat. Its prey is literally too weak to do anything. However, the tiger hunts animals much bigger than itself. It gains and adapts skills that it uses much more than a polar bear, and those skills can help in a fight. Now concerning habitat, I do believe that the polar bear would win in its own habitat due to sheer size. But in a place that neither of them are accustomed to, such as a deciduous forest, the tiger would win easily, I mean the trees are its home. In a desert-like area, the tiger would also win due to its intelligence and lack of such a thick coat or layer of blubber. In a rain forest, a tiger would win. Basically, you're arguing that a polar bear can win because it can only win in its own habitat :).  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8hLgoZJimc 
 
^said by Sir David Attenborough himself, who I'm pretty sure knows polar bears exist (start at about 1:10 to actually hear words) 
 
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/TigerQuoll/lionkillspolarbear.jpg 
 
^If a LION can kill a polar bear, then what makes you think that a siberian tiger (documented to be nearly TWICE the size of a regular lion) can't do that?
Posted @ Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:40 PM by phaaltuwaaltu
What happens is the Siberian Tiger would pounce on the Polar Bear's ass and just start fucking it, the bear would moan in pain but the tiger would enjoy it. Then later I would wake up with a raging boner and go fuck a crawfish hole until one snaps my dick in 1/4, of course I would not enjoy that and therefore scream in agonizing pain while the blood sprayed straight out of my urethra and I pass out and later die. Then the Polar Bear would overdose on lots of pain killers because he was fucked in the anus and he would die, so I guess the tiger wins.
Posted @ Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:56 PM by Henrietta
This article provides some bad info. Polar bears are agile and a tiger would never get even close to harming it because of its thick fur and blubber. The tiger would be overwhelmed by the bear's massive size ans strength and even though it may be fast and have sharp claws and fangs, the bear would not be damaged enough to lose. It would overpower the tiger quickly. Polar bear wins.
Posted @ Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:46 PM by lee
A wolverine, only slightly larger than a housecat has been DOCUMENTED to have stood toe to toe with a Grizzly Bear in a fight... its not all about size stupid people. My Ocelot blinded then tore into the belly of my neighbor's Doberman...then ran up a tree. No joke. Speed kills. The Doberman eventually died at the vets.' Hughe is an idiot.
Posted @ Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:54 PM by Hughisanidiot
The Tiger is more muscular and is possibly even stronger despite being slightly smaller. I would favor the Tiger because it is also more agile. Also to that idiot that thinks Lions have a chance and Tigers don't Thats a load of rubbish I work at Auckland zoo and Tigers are definitely the more powerful animal they are also more accustomed to fighting animals larger than they are.
Posted @ Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:31 PM by Brother Marine
This is a super mismatch so much that it isn't even funny, a 410-500lbs tiger (yes that's how much they weigh now) is NOT and never will be stronger than a polar bear which males average at over 800lbs, in short the polar bear would evicerate the tiger in a few minutes. 
 
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Posted @ Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:19 AM by Blizzard
I spend much time in the woods, and bears don't scare me, but big cats do. You will usually see or hear a bear soon enough to give you time to reach for your pepper spray, or side arm, but a big cat can pounce on you before you even know it's there. I suppose a polar bear could kill a tiger if it got a hold of one, but the big cat is so quick and agile, it would be unlikly. When cats fight dogs, they use their quickness to get on the dogs back and then sink their teeth into the neck. I could see a tiger using it's quickness and agility to eventually get on the bears back and bite the neck. A siberian tiger is almost as big as a polar bear and these tigers do kill and eat Brown bears larger than themselves. This is in spite of the fact that a tiger will not risk injury in taking down its prey.
Posted @ Monday, January 27, 2014 11:09 AM by Steven
This is just really stupid, Tiger fans delusions of grandeur. Polar bear wins EASILY. Kodiak grizzly bear wins easily too, grizzly would win most times. The Tiger can only beat black bears and sloth bears most of the time but even that is not a cert since a recently in India a female black bear held her own against TWO Tigers! FACT, DOCUMENTED.
Posted @ Thursday, March 06, 2014 11:51 PM by goobz
What all of you who believe that the polar bear would easily win fail to comprehend is the size of a Siberian Tiger. The standard size of a healthy Siberian Tiger is 330 kilos. An adult male polar bears weight can range from 350 to 700 kilos. That's not that much of a weight difference. Siberian tigers can take town the polar bears cousin, the black bear with ease. For terms of agility, the tiger has an all out win, due to evolution of muscles and bone structure for quicker movements. Remember, Siberian tigers stalk their prey while polar bears blunder around hunting it. There is no doubt that tiger has that advantage. This is a pretty even fight, but i believe that the tiger will win due agility and equipment.
Posted @ Friday, March 14, 2014 1:23 PM by Jared Medeiros
Jared you're a idiot. Tigers do not weigh anywhere close to 330 kilos on average and polar bear easily pass 350 kilos. Educate yourselves before stating bullshit.
Posted @ Friday, March 28, 2014 12:27 PM by Aaron
Get you facts straight idiot. Looking it up on almost anywhere and it says that Siberian Tigers can average 300 kilos. Here, I'll include a few links. 
 
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/siberian-tiger/ 
 
http://www.liveanimalslist.com/mammals/average-weight-of-tigers.php 
 
So shut up and get you facts straight Aaron, I know what I talk about.
Posted @ Friday, March 28, 2014 12:39 PM by Jared
I have to point out that a polar bear can smell a seal under 3 feet of ice 10 miles away, charge at 40 miles an hour to get to said position, and has enough power to break though the ice. I have a lot of respect for tigers, but a Tiger wouldn't go anywhere near a polar bear. (by-the-way, a black bear isn't even close to the size and agility of a polar bear, there is no comparison.)
Posted @ Friday, March 28, 2014 2:58 PM by ryan
How could you possibly have the Tiger win against the Polar bear? pure delusional, a Grizzly bear would beat the Tiger too and they are much smaller than the Polar bear.
Posted @ Wednesday, June 11, 2014 8:54 PM by dubbs
Jared you dumbass 330 kgs as you said in your first post is not 300 kgs in your second.  
 
Dumbass can't do math lol
Posted @ Friday, July 11, 2014 7:18 PM by Aaron
nr 1 polarbears can swim 9 days without stop, no sleep. therefor I think they have great endurance advantage.  
nr 2 tigers have much faster and accurate strikes, if it would go for the eyes, it could end bad for the bear. 
nr 3 polar bear have more musclesmass. 
nr 4 the polar bear would think that the cat is cute and want to take care of it and learn it sealhunting rather then fighting such a cute thing. this projecting of being cute would piss the tiger of in ways we cant imagine.  
nr 5 polar bears dont fight for pride like other bears. they fight and kill for fun, and thats how superior they feel. but if they realize that they are to small, like being attacked by a killerwhale in the open sea, it just cries and dies. no mature feelings of pride involved. polarbears are like the vikings, blonde, strong, vain and not so mature man-feeling-vise. kind of opposite of a grizzly, where manhood-feelings means everything. Where grizzlys and polarbears meat, somewhere in russia, the polarbears stand no mental chance. grizzlys wins by there mental states.
Posted @ Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:26 AM by bear
A SIBERIAN TIGER WILL KILL A POLAR BEAR WITHOUT IT EVEN KNOWING THAT IT WAS ATTACKED
Posted @ Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:57 PM by Emily Doss
A tiger has been recorded swimming 3 days without break plus it still has enough power to pounce at anything even with the water being to deep for the tiger to put its feet on the bottom
Posted @ Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:06 PM by Siberia
A tiger can defeat a polar bear in its homeland no thought about it. Since poachers have been hunting them tigers have been smart enough to move to the Himalayas their the polar bear will die of lack of air or it won't have enough energy to defend itself as the TIGER KILLS IT
Posted @ Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:55 PM by Caribbean Tiger (now extinct)
What's up the kids ass at the top? Tigers can swim you dumb ass. A Siberian tiger would kill a fucking walrus. Size doesn't mean shit when the tiger is almost as strong as the bear plus his incredible speed. So u don't have a fucking brain
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Posted @ Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:47 AM by Gander Mountain Coupons
I am confused by all these comments. When I visited Wikipedia and looked at the statistics of each animal it was clear from that the tiger is not only heavier but taller. Given its additional speed it seems clear to me that it would win a fight head-on. Please advise me if I am in error here. I
Posted @ Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:08 AM by Thomas
Thomas, I don't know which Wiki you read, but it is clearly in error. A Siberian Tiger, the largest of them can weigh as much as 318kg(700lbs), while a large polar beat is nearly 700kg (1500lbs).. A polar bear is really really strong.. It can smell a baby seal under 2 feet of ice 5 miles away, runs at 20mph, and has enough power to punch through that ice and wrestle that seal out.  
 
Tigers are ambush hunters so a polar bear wouldn't be a good choice. If it were a right to the death, of course the larger, more powerful polar bear wins.
Posted @ Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:09 AM by Ryan
Ive heard numerous biologists and wild life experts say a polar or grizzly bear has more than enough strength to break any big cat in the worlds neck or back with 1 shot. Not 2 1 shot. They also say if by some freak of nature the cat got to the bear it wouldnt kill instantly and bear would still break cats back. Best case for cat is he hurts bear but he dies instantly. Bear wins. Remember bear has extra layers of fat so long shot for claws to do damage. And as far as speed and quickness Bears can 35 mph and run down a deer from 100 yards behind in les than 3 seconds it on YouTube. Not quick what a joke. Quicker + fast than cat biger much stronger. Are you kidding me. The U.S.A. has the badest land animal on the planet
Posted @ Saturday, May 09, 2015 8:51 AM by chuck
No big cat stands a good chance against a polar bear or a coastal brownie, even in an ambush attack. The bear is simply too big and too strong for any cat that ever lived. 
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